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I don't need to go out and caucus. this is something donald trump has said time and time again, telling his supporters, pretend that we are losing by a point, that we are not winning in the polls. he wants people to actually show up. now, part of that is also because they want to set the tone for the primary season. they want a definitive win here that would curb any momentum that any candidates are having. that's their big goal. one of the things we talked about, they are really trying to bring out first time caucus goers. whether or not this weather stops people who have never caucused befor...

Polls, and that's also why, when i talk about winning by a big margin in iowa, that's very important to them because of new hampshire. they want to curve any kind of momentum that nikki haley has so that she's not soaring into new hampshire, and particularly we're talking about nikki haley here. just to give you an idea, they are not spending any money at all campaigning right now on the air waves against florida governor ron desantis. the super pac, $1.3 million a week up until the primary in new hampshire hitting nikki haley. they clearly are concerned there. they really wanted this to wrap ...

A stage where it's not eight people talking to each other, you sort of hope for a more substantive discussion, maybe you'll hit a few policy points. instead this was an all-out slugfest. the thing i noticed immediately right off the bat you had desantis going off with mealy-mouth and haley pointing out the way he's scondered tens of millions in his presidential bid only to end up second or third in the state that he laid his hopes on, which is iowa. the attacks were done almost in buzz words because all these attack ads have already been on the air waves in places like iowa, in places like new...

General letitia james, but she is also seeking to ensure donald trump can never do business in the state of new york as well. he is staring at the fate of his trump family organization and the business and its future in the state of new york, jose. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. so dasha, let's kind of focus in on those four days left before the iowa caucuses. what's on the line for nikki haley and ron desantis tonight during the debate? it's also going to be the same time that trump is holding a town hall. >> reporter: right, well, jose, this battle for second place has gone on far ...

The 15th is both the iowa caucus and potential ly the e. jean car really trial. so this givehouse an idea of why exactly they are having these kinds of conversations. when they talk about this, one of the things they hope for, one of the strategies they hope to implore is making this a media spectacle and capitalize ing on it. it's one thing they believe president trump good at doing and point to the coverage on thursday. they were happy with the way the coverage went. they felt they dominated the air waves and sucked the life out of many of the other candidates, even though there had been a r...