And guess what? that's a higher rate than mr. romney paid. and those other people in the pie who aren't paying income taxes, they're elderly, they're student, they're people with disabilities, they're disabled veterans, they're the long-term unemployment, down on their luck because of the bush recession. these are the people who romney says don't take personal responsibility? that sort of talk is just ugly. joining me now is margie and anne lowry, economy reporter for "the new york times." she's writing about this today on "times" economix blog. thank you for being with me this evening. anne, ...