opposition party appear in court in harare charged with inciting violence after monday s election the defendant saying they re being framed by the police. you could join us tens of thousands of people are protesting in israel against new legislation they say marginalizes non jewish people in the country thousands have gathered in a central square in tel aviv for a protest organized by the country s druze minority they re calling for all israelis to be treated equally and they say the new law undercuts israel s democratic values by marginalizing not only the druze but also the country s arab minority arab israelis make up about twenty percent of the population. let s bring in middle east correspondent tanya kramer on the line she s. at the rally in tel equal before the law and that s why so many people turned out to approaches. how will minority is like the druze and the arab israelis be affected by this nation. what i mean the arab israeli community would be always. discriminated against not just trying to. make you know as below actually. the jewish character. only in addition to that old downgrade of the arctic language from the official language to the language the. people who came here tonight will protest against a possible so-called compromise that was offered by the israeli prime minister last three of the disgust with the leadership of the jewish community it s painted to fall because they want to be an amendment to the nation state all that crap all together. given it s a saying they just don t want to be seen as second of the victims and that s why they have to come out and protest. middle east correspondent tanya famous after a rally in tel aviv thank you so much. temperatures in europe are forecast to reach the highest ever recorded on the continent this weekend in spain at least three people have reportedly died from heat stroke eight places in portugal have already broken local hit records with some areas hitting nearly forty six degrees celsius that s close to the record forty eight degrees set in greece more than forty years ago. mercilessly the sun beats down day after day driving the temperatures in portugal to record breaking highs. people do whatever they can for relief. authorities have issued a nationwide health alert and urging people to take precautions against heat stroke the most important thing is to drink lots and lots of water. i need lots of water something cool and i try to stay at home. easy doesn t stay in the shade and drink a lot and that s. right. emergency services are at maximum readiness because of the threat of forest fires last year wildfires killed more than one hundred people in portugal. expect the risk of fires to rise in the old army and in parts of iowa into as well as in the north. the first alarms were reported on friday some seven hundred firefighters are working one major fire in the hill country of the our garvie. forecasters expect temperatures to hit forty seven degrees before things start to cool off slightly earlier in the week. and the heat wave has hit germany hard as well and while people are suffering here the tree is are also dying a slim margin man and god has called for national unity and reached out to his rival. wage to be the president of all the. president all those that voted for me. those. who knows. i wonder. what was the reason. for this is no congratulated him on his victory the united states says it is reviewing the election results. to sports news now at the european championships in glasgow the records are tumbling in the pool first british farmer adam p.t. broke his own world record in the men s one hundred meter breaststroke the reigning olympic champion clocked a time of fifty seven seconds dead so the delight of the home crowd peter shaved zero point one three seconds of his previous best which he set at the olympics in rio de janeiro two years ago next there was joy for russia as clear men cause less than a call of broke the men s fifty 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News coverage is provided. they have 11 percent of voters at this point undecided. the ohio lieutenant governor told elizabeth prann earlier today how important the president s role here will be. i think voters will show up tonight. republicans will show up tonight. they will be excited to see the president in ohio in the buckeye state supporting troy balderson is a conservative who has worked to lower taxes. to defend life, protect the second amendment to cut unnecessary burdensome regulations. this will be the president s third rally this week. in support of republican candidates and he has made plenty of headlines with his remarks during the rallies often directed at democratic political rivals or what he calls the fake news media for underreporting his successes in office including the economy. our economy, is soaring, jobs are booming, factors are pouring back into the country. they are coming from all over the world. we are defending our workers. we are protecting our constitution. we will likely hear more about that tonight michael. we do not know if we ll hear more about the president s twitter feed with lebron james who is on another network lesson i talked about a new school he s opening in the akron area. the president criticizing lebron james who criticized the president. we will have to see what happens next. we ll have more on that coming up in the next hour. mike: thank you, leading us off from charming new jersey. laura: for more on this would go to jack torrey, the washington bureau chief. for the dispatch. a lot to talk about today, jack. thank you for being with us today. to talk about what we are about to experience here in the next few hours. i was reading in your paper that voters in ohio are being inundated with the presidential election, the special election. millions of dollars being spent for both sides today as you re watching here on the split screen. the president is heading there for troy balderson. what are voters saying ahead of this going into the polls? are they reacting to this type of advertising so far? is a very good question and a hard one to answer because no one really knows what s getting through here. i think a lot of voters in the district didn t know until couple weeks so that there would be a special election next tuesday. all of these ads are aimed at firing up enough people on the base to show up and vote because of the special election. it is strictly turn out. if you get your voters to show up you will win. so far, from the early votes and early absentee request the democrats are, danny o connor, appeared to be doing much better than the republicans. voters are getting all types of text messages and from both candidates and their campaigns, the door knock campaign going on all week. if you are not going to the polls they are coming to you kind of a feeling there from what we are hearing. voters in ohio haven t gone to the polls in august and quite a while. how do you think it will go, i know it is hard to predict but what are your people saying? most people say it will be very close. i would say this, republicans are acting like they are in trouble. the congressional leadership to the group connected to speaker ryan has put in about $3 million in television ads and on the ground. they are sending in the president, the scent and the vice president in the eastern part of the district earlier this week. they are acting like they have a problem. democrats on the other hand a fired up. the key is going to become a delaware county which is north of columbus, is home to suburban wealthy. suburban republican voters. the county has the highest median household income in the state. it also has the highest number of percentage of college graduates. this is the demographics that the president has had trouble with. you are seeing if troy balderson loses on tuesday, i think it will be a backlash against the president by suburban republicans. particularly suburban republican women. laura: you bring that appear medical this largely symbolic head of the midterm elections. these two will face up again in november, this is a preview to what we could see across the country. in this case we brought that up with the suburbans. give a republican district with a pumped up democratic base. so at polling ohio shows voters are frustrated with the president s leadership. what advice at this point could both candidates use? the best thing for both to do would be stay on message. which is very hard for troy balderson to do. because he is a president who should be coming in talking about the economy. instead, he is launching a twitter war against lebron james. it is just, it s not a very understandable strategy.the other problem is going to be at the event tonight, governor kasich was also endorsed troy balderson this is his old congressional district. i m not sure he will be there. in fact i m pretty sure he will not be there. as a result of a mixed message going on. it is almost a proxy sheet between john kasich and donald trump.and the two of them have made it clear they are not crazy about each other. laura: and get a word in my ear that the president has just tweeted about tariffs. what are voters in ohio saying about tariffs? how are they responding to the rhetoric on twitter? actually, tariffs are not all that popular in ohio. although people think they are because they think of it as the rust belt. but if you look at ohio it is a huge agricultural state. the expert like $600 million worth of soybeans to china. warmers in ohio are going to be hurt by a trade war with china. they will be hurt if nafta is not renegotiated. ohio is a nature export state. and they you know no matter how much it sounds good, to have people talking about tariffs, typical voters want to have good prices and they want to be able to export their goods. and you just, this rally will be held not that far from the plant in ohio. honda did not want to have a trade war. the workers do not want a trade war. laura: you know i want to go back to something. reports this week the democrats have cast 71 percent of the early votes so far. 2016 general election republicans in the district, the three biggest counties accounted for 65 percent of the early vote. this is a district that has been held by republicans as 1980. how worried should they be? you are seeing the republicans act like they are worried. well i think he just ask yourself the obvious question. think of where half the audience was in 1982. the last time a democrat won the sea. a lot of them were not born yet. this is a real problem. if the republicans lose on tuesday, and then i am not saying they will, but no one knows for sure. this does not go well, the columbus business community has made it pretty clear. the winner of the race will probably end up supporting in the fall. there certainly not run against that person. this raises the stakes for this election. and if the republicans lose a race like this where they put all this morning and all this time and all of this organization, it is not a good sign for the november elections. everybody knows what is at stake here. like i said, they should be normally a republican seat. and we do not know what will happen on tuesday. laura: i want to draw our viewers attention to the other half of the screen as we watch for the arrival of the president in ohio. of course it is not for a little while. but the president factor is one that cannot be ignored. his ability to spike the intensity of his base, at these rallies we have seen. and we will see more of this. he told sean hannity an interview recently he plans to campaign 6 to 7 days a week during the final two months before the midterms. but some say it could overshadow, it could distract. what do you think for the folks in ohio on that one? i m puzzled by his selection of going in the delaware county. the truck district stretches all the way out to zanesville in the east and there are a lot of trump voters out the print delaware county which is places like dublin and westerville and worthington, these are modern upscale neighborhoods and they are probably, they like the economy, they love the economy, what am i saying? i m sure they don t like the noise that goes with it. and as a result, the voters they are trying to appeal to, because they have been having john kasich, senator portman doing radio spots, those sponsors aimed right at that particular voter. that is the voter that donald trump has been having trouble with. and so it s going to be an interesting thing to see if he can connect with them somehow. i m not sure he can. laura: jack tori with cultist dispatch, we appreciate perspective. obviously will be a big night for you all there. thank you so much for being with us and sharing. glad to be with you. laura: stay with the fox news channel tonight. we will be in ohio for the president s rally scheduled to begin 6:30 pm eastern time. then we will bring you live reaction right after with a brand-new episode of watters world at 8:00. mike: paul manafort tax and bank fraud trial, his accountant said she helped alter financial documents even though she believed records were false. yesterday s admission coming as the president ramped up calls to end the special counsel, robert mueller s russia investigation. sufficient reason. i mean this is really a congressional matter. the irony here is that the argument is president obama did not have the authority to put the program and by way of executive order. i personally agree with that. the administration has 20 days to appeal the ruling. laura: ellison barber, in washington, thank you. mike: after mass manhunt the suspected killer reformer presidents heart dr. is found. authorities believe that they now know his motive. we have the latest on the investigation. butfirst, secretary of state, mike pompeo out with a storm warning stern warning. how north korea is responding. and morristown new jersey where president is right now, on the right screen ohio where he is heading for a campaign style rally ahead of a special election on tuesday. you can catch it right here on fox news channel. ely clip a passing car. minor accident - no big deal, right? 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north korea 100 percent. the trump administration has been completely clear. waterford crystal clear. no sections will be relieved from the united states until the north koreans dismantled the nuclear program. i have not even allowed us into the country to actually see what they have. there has to be a sequence of things that happen to fully denuclearize north korea. and they have not done step one yet. they ve done things we appreciate. sending back some of the reported remains of america s war heroes and some of the things but that is not our number one priority. the number one priority is to finally and fully dismantle the north korean nuclear missile program. mike: what would happen if president trump let up sanctions pressure now? he would be doing exactly what every previous president has done and who has failed. what the trumpet ministration is doing that is completely different than previous administrations is to say, i am going to continue to pressure as hard as we can. that is why the tough words from secretary pompeo towards china and russia, that is why we are saying this because they relieving some of the sanctions enforcement. that has to stay in place. what we are keeping a place, meanwhile president trump continues to show kim jong-un what could be north korea s future should he choose it. and that is where you are saying all of this. the comments going back and forth, the nice talk, showing them there could be economic prosperity but none of it happens unless he makes the decision. mike: topic ministry officials have made clear there are limits to their patients with north korea. is that we are picking up as well? absolutely. all my conversations between the u.s. officials privately, publicly, what i m hearing from them is consistent across the board. there is a limit to this because the to ministration wants to have progress, real dismantlement progress before the end of the presidents term. assuming he is one term we have to get that done. he might have two but you can t count on that. so that means, i m looking at the feeling that i get is after november, we looking at december, january, if the north koreans have not clearly made that strategic decision to move in another direction, there s going to be maximum pressure part two and it will be the forest in the first round. mike: break out your crystal ball. the question from all folks is, will this time be different with north korea? you know, i think the thing that is hard to predict with the trump administration because of such an unconventional president. one thing that gives a little increased help for the administration is that president trump is determined to actually dismantle and he seems to be. he is not really interested in relieving the status quo. he is not interested in the north koreans expanding the program. part of that is you have to have a credible threat of military force. previous presidents have said all options on the table but have not met it. i really get the sense that president trump is willing to flip the switch and say we tried diplomacy, that didn t work to resolve the strongest most capable military in the world and we are not willing to allow you to continue to threaten the united states with nuclear missiles. i am more hopeful than have been in the past. that this is a very stubborn north korean regime and really the ball is in their court. mike: goodness so far is that they are not rockets being fired off around 4 july or other american holidays to say look at us over here, right? that s right. the testing of the missiles, that is one piece of missile program that gives them an increased sense that the missiles are reliable but they can actually get them where they want to send them. but it is just one piece. you ve seen the un report coming out and other reports say that the north koreans can still build out their capacity. they can still expand their capability, expand the number of missiles and capabilities they have without testing. we cannot allow them to do this cat and mouse diplomacy and while they are building more missiles behind these or inside these mountains and so that is why the patient s other trump administration has its limits. thank you so much. thanks.laura: supreme court justice nominate brett kavanaugh is gearing up to me with senate democrats. what they are requesting about him. and we are waiting the president to leave new jersey to go to ohio. for a campaign style rally ahead of a special election on tuesday. we will be right back. that might help. show me the carfax? 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i agree with the congressman. he needs to be properly vetted, the senate is to take seriously its role to advising consent. but it is advising consent role. i think we have to be careful. already there has been $10 million raised and spent by outside groups to pressure not only be democrats in red states but moderates, murkowski and collins, and so if we are already at 10 million raised and spent my guess is we will be somewhere north of 52 may be $75 million spent to see if someone is worthy to be confirmed on the united states supreme court. i think that is a big problem we need to address in the country. i also think we need to recognize that as we get towards the hearings, with everything we re seeing now in the lead up we need to remember in order for it to be a hearing, someone has to listen. and unfortunately both in the house and in the senate, hearings, most of what we see these days from both sides of the aisle, is a lot of spin, love trying to get their own 30 seconds in the evening news. so i think we need to take a step back and say okay, the senator should ask very short, very precise questions with lots of very short and very precise follow-up questions. if we want to have a real vetting process. as it relates to the qualifications of judge kavanaugh. that is the key. mike: good luck with that! john, thank you very much. great to have your time and analysis on this saturday. have a great day. thank you. laura: a fox news alert. dozens of fires happening out west. the hardest hit areas northern california. unrelenting heat and dry weather making it tough for firefighters to put out the flames. jeff paul is live in los angeles with the very latest. i was just there two weeks ago, my family is there there opening up the doors and smoke just hits them. it s like getting his mouth full of smoke. it is terrible everyone in the region. reporter: it is absolutely horrible. part of the reason why the governor there is speaking while touring some of the hardest hit areas that we spoke about, telephone or governor jerry brown analyses asking president trump for a major disaster declaration. there battling the relentless fires with herculean efforts for their 14,000 firefighters battling 17 major wildfires here so far the fires have burned close to half a million acres forcing 40,000 to evacuate. the most devastating fire is a carr fire which killed six people and destroyed more than 1000 homes. it is considered one of the worst wildfires in state history. when asked about the likelihood of president trump approving the relief requested governor brown says he is hopeful. tragedies bring people together. we rise to the occasion and so our interests converge at a higher and deeper level. that is what s happening here. i am confident the president will respond. reporter: if the disaster declaration is approved it would bring in much need of federal assistance to help prevent further threats to people and their homes. no word yet from the white house on any decision. the government agency that tracks major fires reports at the moment, firefighters are battling at least 89 wildfires across 10 states, half of the 28,000 firefighters responded to all the fires right now are in california. laura: all right, we saved almost every summer. i wish we could send the rain that we get on the east coast over there. thank you for your report. mike: let s take a live look. there is ohio where the president is heading. but there is new jersey where we understand marine one has just touched down. the president is about to make his trip to ohio to make a pitch for a house runoff. a critical house runoff here just 90 or so days from election day. what s fascinating about the race of course is whoever wins, they will run again in november against one another. and so will be interesting to see if the president can use his influence in battleground ohio to sway the voter base and get the election swung one way or the other. moorestown, new jersey will expect president trump to leave anytime now for a rally in ohio. this evening and of course will have full coverage here on fox news. we will be back in a moment. motorcycle revving motorcycle revving motorcycle revving no matter who rides point, there are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. and just like tyrone taylor, they know what it takes to help keep you protected. are you in good hands? 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mike: david lee miller, great to have your experience over there. thanks a lot. laura: also in middle east, tehran bracing for restored u.s. sanctions as president trump says he is willing to meet with leadership without preconditions. is it a good idea? we will talk about it next. allergies with sinus congestion and pressure? you won t find relief here. go to the pharmacy counter for powerful claritin-d. while the leading allergy spray relieves 6 symptoms. claritin-d relieves 8, including sinus congestion and pressure. claritin-d relieves more. it s league night!? saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico! goin up the country. bowl without me. frank. i m going to get nachos. snack bar s closed. gah! ah, ah ah. i m goin up the country, baby don t you wanna go? i m goin up the country, baby don t you wanna go? geico motorcycle, great rates for great rides. laura: president trump saying yet. they are having a hard time right now. but i ended the iran deal. it was a ridiculous deal. no preconditions. they want to meet i will meet. anytime they want. anytime they want. it s good for the country, good for them, good for us and good for the world. laura: a columnist for the national review magazine, joining us live on set here in new york. thank you for being with us. some say there is no wrong with having a medium with no preconditions for the present seems to be working around this plan he is with the singapore summit with kim jong-un. earlier this summer, what do you think? from the presence but to be there certainly nothing wrong in proposing the meeting that he knows will not happen. anytime soon. trump of course got lots of good publicity for meeting with chairman kim and nothing much happened yet but we have some nice helsinki was going to be positive, turned out it wasn t. so donald trump is trying for one third with the deplorable of the nations of the world. he knows the iranians will not meet because they have no incentive to meet. the deputy speaker of the iranian parliament, said we would be humiliated sitting down after this iranian deal blew up. this is shadowboxing. we ll have a stalemate, we will stare at each other, until the sanctions bite hard enough that iran has to think about plan b. speed. laura: we talk about their under incredible pressure domestically. how can the president, if this were to come to pass, use that pressure to the advantage of the united states? if we get there? it will take several months. but it has just been a few months in the iranian currency has plummeted. right. contrast with european countries and u.s. subsidiaries have plummeted. the economy is in freefall. the markets are tumbling. the oil production is down. another year of this we may finally see that meeting. and maybe the iranians will have a different perspective. laura: what about the anger? among iranian stores u.s. has been growing since the trump administration. the anger among iranian officials paid their meaning people sometimes go to the street to protest their own government until they are shot. so the question really is, who do the iranian people really blame? do they really blame the united states or their own government for its corruption and mismanagement that is basically stunted their economy and isolated them from the world. laura: president trump is a known dealmaker and has a goal for the new iran deal the 12 point plan aimed at making iran a normal country. by end of the iranian enrichment program, the ballistic program that many say this is not realistic. it depends on what iran wants to be. right now theyare a regional superpower. fostering terrorism , meddling in other countries. it is the big player in israel through hezbollah. it loves the status and apparently the leadership believes that is a normal country. there is a gap between the middling creating turmoil and having stable democratic successful economy. they are apparently going to choose the role of trouble maker. laura: thank you for being here, john fund. it is fun to learn we are from the same part of the world. laura: that does it for us. mike: the news continues at the top of the hour right after this short break. as president trump goes to ohio for a rally tonight. ve got to t something important. it s not going to be easy. quicksilver earns you unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. actually, that s super easy. my bad. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient that s super easy. originally discovered. in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. just for a shot. with neulasta onpro patients get their dayr back to be with family, or just to sleep in. strong chemo can put you at risk of serious infection. in a key study neulasta reduced the risk of infection from 17% to 1%, a 94% decrease. neulasta onpro is designed to deliver neulasta the day after chemo and is used by most patients today. neulasta is for certain cancer patients receiving strong chemotherapy. do not take neulasta if you re allergic to it or neupogen (filgrastim). an incomplete dose could increase infection risk. ruptured spleen, sometimes fatal as well as serious lung problems allergic reactions, kidney injuries and capillary leak syndrome have occurred. report abdominal or shoulder tip pain, trouble breathing or allergic reactions to your doctor right away. in patients with sickle cell disorders, serious,
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testimony continuing, what are you hearing? reporter: it s really fass nating. the way rick gates lays out how they did it, how he and paul manafort moved millions of dollars that they got paid from ukraine through bank accounts in cypress so that manafort could have access to the money, and they re laying it out by presenting the witness, rick gates, star witness, by the way, with emails and other documents including some that are damaging, presumably, to manafort, one in particular which clearly indicates that what this gates would do is get Kate Bolduan gives a fresh take on today s top stories. that s where we are. back to you. and more to come. joe, thank you very much. court continues. joining me, crime and justice reporter shimon porcupez, and cnn legal analysts and former federal prosecutors. thanks all for being here. renata, first to you, how is the gates testimony going so far? like how would you how would you grade this? it s going very well for the prosecution. i think at this point if we re grading on a curve, we d give him an a. they have obviously gates has problems, you alluded to that earlier in the show. whenever you have a flipper, cooperator, they re going to have problems. they re somebody who s committed a crime. here gates is you know, admitted to lying under oath. he admitted to lying to the fbi. so that is something that jurors are going to have to consider. but the that has been fronted by the prosecutors. in other words, they have put that out there there for the jury so it takes the sting out of the cross-examination. and what they have done as was pointed out a moment ago is walk through in detail how rick gates committed crimes along with paul manafort. and that is the power of a witness like him, a cooperator. he can say, i committed crimes along with that man, and here is how he did it. jennifer, the washington post who put it this way first, which is the jury has to now decide who they re going to believe, as i said it top. an admitted liar, an accused one. how is the jury supposed to decide that? there are a few ways that the prosecution will ask the jurors to decide that rick gates is telling the truth here. one is just the structure of his cooperation agreement. he has to tell the truth. that s in the agreement. if he doesn t, he doesn t get the benefit of cooperation, he doesn t get his guilty plea back either. he ll be facing time. the judge won t be able to give him leniency. the most important way is that he s corroborated by all the other evidence in the case. that s what was being discussed earlier. not just his own oral testimony about what happened, but emails, other documents, i m sure there are wire transfer records, as well. so in addition to what he says, the jury will also be relying on the other evidence in the case. that s what prosecutors will use to say yes, he lied to us when he first came in, yes, he was stealing from paul manafort, yes, he lied to the irs. but he s telling you the truth here today, and here s how you know. this evidence backs him up that, of course, he couldn t have anything to do with fabricating. shimon, put this in perspective for folks. who is rick gates in the grand scheme of the investigation? when you listen to the testimony and what you re hearing is a guy who is directly involved in almost every part the paul manafort s business. that s clearment in this clear. in this testimony, he s revealing emails, messages sent to him, to paul manafort, to ukrainians. it is going to be hard for the defense in this case to refute the documents. you can go after witnesses all you want. it seems like the prosecution at least to this points has a lot of other evidence, documents certainly that are going to bolster their case. you know, in the grand scheme of things, also when you think about rick gates and what he was to the presidential campaign, right, he was involved in that. so he knows almost every aspect probably of paul manafort s professional life, his political life. and again, you know, what was revealed yesterday was that he has met with prosecutors some 20 times. so we really don t know exactly everything that rick gates has told him about paul manafort s life. we know that investigators, the fbi, the special counsel, has been very interested in paul manafort outside of this case and what he knew about communications with russians and perhaps others during the campaign. we really have only a little bit of of look inside of what rick gates knows concerning paul manafort. and with all of this kind of setting up as we have, i really wonder what is cross-examination going to look like? it is going to be brutal, kate. the defense absolutely has to take down rick gates if they want any chance of victory. even if they do take down gates, there s a lot of other evidence, they still might lose. if they don t take down gates, it s all over. gates essentially lays out the prosecutions s case, goes through the evidence. he is telling the jury, i worked with that man, we were criminals, we worked together. here s how we did it. so you can expect a lot of fireworks today. this is going to be the most dramatic part of the trial. in the defense opening, they said, the opening statement, that that rick gates is the real bad guy, he s the real wrongdoer. and you can expect that a lot of fireworks here, particularly focusing on the fact that he embezzled money from manafort. the defense will argue that he fooled manafort then, and it goes to show that he fooled manafort as to this other stuff. part of what one of the big things that s come out, jennifer, is that rick gates says that admitted that he basically stole money from paul manafort over the years, like in the process of all of this nefarious stuff that rick gates is admitting to. why did he admit that? he had to admit that. you have to tell the truth about everything that you ve done. i mean, even if he stole car parts when he was a kid, he s going to admit that. this especially because keep in mind the prosecutors have all of this documentary evidence. they have all of the financial accounts and probably could see even if rick gates didn t tell them, that money was going out that couldn t be accounted for through the salaries. he had to come clean. he did come clean. renato s right, that s going to be a tough part of the cross. jennifer, does this testimony make it less likely that manafort takes the stand? you know, it s hard to tell about a defendant testifying. in my experience defendants only take the stand when they re desperate, when it looks really bad for them and they think they have no chance of winning. i think that s probably the case here. but keep in mind that his testimony then opens him up to cross on a whole variety of topics including things that he doesn t testify about on direct. as long as they go to his credibility. he may not be willing to open that pandora s box given what the government knows about him. so it will be interesting to see. i still am guessing that he doesn t testify, though, given the risks. okay. shimon, this case as we ve mentioned is not about the president s campaign or possible collusion with russia. these are very clearly financial crimes that happened that he s accused of and charged with, that happened before manafort joined the trump campaign, years before in some cases. how important is really today for the mueller investigation when you talk about this star witness, this testimony, this cross-examination, that will be coming? this moment? so here s what i think, it s important because rick gates is a cooperator. if the defense or anyone, say, in this case brings him down, whatever else he may be cooperating on could be in jeopardy. if they break his credibility here, certainly if this jury finds that he s not believable, you can be assured that the prosecution, that these investigators are going to look at this as an issue. it s not necessarily going to affect the plea deal that rick gates has worked out and the cooperation agreement. they would be devastated. it would hurt their chances of using him in any other criminal trial. they can continue to use him in their investigation and gather information and get information from him. but to put him out there publicly would certainly if his credibility is found to be bad in jeopardy, putting him out there in public again would probably limit it. guys, great to see you. thank you very much. let s see what happens today. ahead for us, the final test for president trump before the midterm elections. can republicans hang on to a very longheld, very strongly held, reliably red seat in ohio? 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why, oh why? it seems everyone has their own answer, and the thinks he is the solution. campaigning there over the weekend, but not surprisingly, the candidates disagree on what impact he will have. has brought so much enthusiasm out, to have both the vice president of the united states and the president of the united states here within six days of each other is just huge. the most important thing we can do is have one-on-one conversations with our volunteers, with me, with my family, knocking on doors. because that s more valuable than when people come in from washington, d.c., they spend a couple of hours here, and leave. they re not invested in the community like i am. cnn s ryan nobles is in ohio for us. what are you seeing there? you re at the polling place where the voters are. what are they telling you? reporter: yeah, it s been a steady stream of voters here in wef westerville. there s no doubt that president trump looms large in this race. national politics certainly a part of the focus here. we were reminded last night that this is still very much a local race. that s because of something the republican candidate troy balderson said last night. take a listen. my opponent is from franklin county. franklin county has been challenging. we don t want someone from franklin county representing us. reporter: if you caught that, balderson said we don t want someone from franklin county representing us. we happen to be in franklin county now. this makes up one-third of this important congressional district, and it is where danny o connor, the democrat, hails from. o connor responded saying our district represents someone who s going to represent all of us. troy balderson made it crystal clear that s not him. and democrats are really trying to seize on these comments, targeted facebook ads that are going out to voters here in frederick county to try and drive them to the polls. certainly this would be the more moderate end of the district that includes parts of columbus, as you get further away from columbus. the district gets more red. kate, for all the talk about donald trump s influence in this race, it could come down especially something, a race that is so close at this point to a very big gaffe at the 11th hour that could decide who wins or loses tonight. we ll have to see what happens. great to have you there. thank you very much. for more on the race and what the results could mean, who else am i going to go to? difficult, or disastrous? this is the only election. not like there s more inning in terms of ohio. more coming in terms of ohio. this is what folks are voting on if they re turning out in ohio. what does it change in terms of the map and the path if the democrat wins? reporter: if republicans cannot hold this seat, ronald reagan was president the last time a democrat won this seat. if the republicans cannot hold it tonight, it is a better-than-safe bet the democrats will take back the house. better than a safe bet. if they cannot hold a seat like this, you cannot expect them to hold the more competitive races that would give the democrats the 32 23 or 24 they need. if it s close, republicans will try to turn the lessons in the battlegrounds states. this matters. it s not just a special election because we re inside 100 days, we re close to november. republicans are nervous about the message out of this district tonight. yeah. the momentum is real on this one. trump came out with a new endorsement yesterday. i want to ask about another race. there are other people voting. reporter: right. tonight. a controversial polarizing, if you will, kansas secretary of state, chris coback, he is running for governor. in the primary fight with the current republican governor. what does it mean for republicans chances of keeping the governor s mansion there if we re talking about chris coback and an endorsement that by all accounts that i m seeing folks didn t want donald trump to weigh in on this. reporter: no, they did not. they wanted him to stay silent. think about what you said the sitting republican president just opposed a sitting republican governor. donald trump loves his sway in the republican party. he thinks he can turn out the voters. he loves being the leader of the republican party in that way, rally trump, if you will. base trump, if you will. he doesn t understand, many republicans will tell you, his responsibility as the leader of the party, they think by endorsing chris coback who, like the president, says that millions of people came out of the woodwork and voted illegally in the presidentally election, among other presidential 14,000 firefighters across california are battling 16 major fires. the largest is the mendocino complex fire. it s two fires combined into one. now it s doubled in size over the last three days. and now it s the largest fire in california s history. it s burned more than 290,000 acres, an area about the size of los angeles, if you can believe it. so far, there are no reports of deaths or injuries related to that fire. we know from other fires there have been fatalities. joining me now, live from lakeport, california, correspondent dan simon with more. dan, it really seems like these fires, you take all 16, they will not quit. what are you seeing there? reporter: hi, kate. yeah, the california wildfires keep getting bigger and bigger. this one is massive. we re not seeing any abatement. this is one of the hometown that s been one of the homes that s been destroyed. 75 homes in total. and you have about 34% containment, and thousands of people who have been evacuated. at this point about 11,000 homes still being talented. we have some of the structures like i said, destroyed. for the most part, you see what the fire has done. it has charred a tremendous amount of landscape. we re talking about fire that is in a steep area, very rugged terrain. so that is the place where the helicopters really need to focus their efforts to try to get those flames under control. for the most part, again, the fire is burning,a b burning from populated communities. with the weather, wind, heat, and bone-dry brush, there s a concern that the fire could push into the populated areas. we know as we ve seen it can shift it can change directions so quickly without really any warning. i have to ask you, dan, president trump is weighing in on the fires. he s tweeted out in part that the fires are being, in his words, magnified and made so much worse by the bad environmental laws which aren t allowing massive amounts of readily available water to be properly utilized. he said in a tweet. dune what he s talking about here do you know what he s talking about here? what are officials in california saying? reporter: kate, the experts here have no idea what he is saying. there is absolutely no problem when it comes to getting water to battle these wildfires. in the past really for the past few decades, there has been friction between environmental groups and farmers and commercial fishermen when it comes to water diversion. the notion that firefighters would be challenges getting water to put out the fires, it s not rooted in fact whatsoever. and really, everyone seems to be puzzled. and dan, this was also handed to me. it seems the white house doesn t know, as well, from cnn s kevin liptack, the white house is not offering any clarity to the president s claim. kevin liptak reporting, officials admit to being perplexed as to where trump may have gotten the notion that california s long-running water crisis is related somehow to the out-of-control fires. per politicsed in california. per per politicsed in california. perplexed in washington, d.c., as well. even at the white house. dan simon, thank you very much. appreciate it. ahead for us, a towering figure in sports gets candid about a real-life issue. ten is superstar serena williams sparking an important conversation across the country. this is your wake-up call. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. humira can help stop the clock. prescribed for 15 years, humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contributes to joint pain and irreversible damage. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you ve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you ve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. help stop the clock on further irreversible joint damage. talk to your rheumatologist. right here. right now. humira. there s also a lot to know. the most important thing? 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it had me thinking all evening and morning about it. when you read that and you hear that, what do you what do you think? what is serena saying? i am so grateful to serena for being honest about mother hood especially in the early months. when i was a new mom years ago, i remember the power of brooke shields talking about postpartum depression. something i had not heard that much about. to hear a celebrity talk about that is not all rosy is incredibly powerful. it is incredibly powerful. elizabeth, something that i m wondering about is is she talking about postpartum depression? is she talking about work-life balance? is she talking about all of it? what do you think? it s interesting. when you look at her instagram post, serena williams does not say she was diagnosed with postpartum depression. she talks about feeling in a funk. she talks about experiencing postpartum emotions. that can be different. that s not necessarily depression. i think in the end it doesn t matter. i think what she is talking about is what it s like to go back to work after having that cute baby there. it is difficult. i remember my first day back at cnn, an incredibly supportive place for mothers. i rode home with the first day with a friend and cried the entire day home. i wasn t depressed. it s just that before you re a mother, you re a different person. once you become a mother, you re not just about yourself. you re devoted to this other being. going back to work after going through that can be tough. christine, i have to say, i i have been so impressed all along on how candid serena has been about the journey. she is such an amazing athlete. and she is being so real about this aspect of her life. what does this mean for the sports world? kate, if it s possible, serena is having her finest hours now. and this is someone who s won 23 grand slam tournaments, is seen as the greatest of all time. maybe not just female tennis player, but of all tennis players. i think she s the greatest female athlete in any sport ever in history. yet i think this is each her finest achievement. because what the remarkable thing she s done on the tennis court, i think she s now decided to branch out and be honest. she always was honest. she always was very emotional in a good way about telling us what she thought about all these tournaments over the years. and she really burst on to the scene. in 1999, that s 19 years ago, as an 18-year-old, and she won her first u.s. open. she s gearing up again for the u.s. open where the crowds will be absolutely crazy about her. can you imagine the ovation? can you imagine now it s not just serena the tennis player, it s serena the cultural icon. and what she s saying and how she s helping women and and new fathers, it s really, it s serena s shining in a way that i don t know that any of us would have expected to see. it is great to see. and it doesn t seem planned. it just seems it s just authentic. she s just being herself and just being so there s so much strength in being open about it. because and you know this, as a working mom, there is always a risk. there is always it is always hard to show weakness or to throw up your hand and say, i need? help. and i wonder i don t know, maybe i m being polly anna about it, but i wonder if serena speaking up helps with that. i think it helps tremendously. i think the more honest we are all about motherhood in the beginning and how hard to say to go back to work, to decide not to go to work. the more honest we can be with each other, the better. there is a taboo about talking about the really challenging parts of motherhood. and i think the great thing about serena s talking about it is that we re so used to her winning. she s the high achieving woman who probably got all as. she certainly knows the game like you practice, and then you get the trophy. you practice, win, get the trophy. and mother hood, there s no trophy as a motherhood, right. a completely different experience. for her to be sharing that with us is powerful because we re not used to seeing her that way at all. our troughies are the kids trophies are the kids, but sometimes the kids take the trophy and beat us over the head with it. exactly. elizabeth, i i never think of people appreciate and especially what anne s talking about. people appreciate the intense change that happens in that first year of having a baby. physical, of course. but emotional and mental. i mean, people talk about the fourth trimester for a baby. there s a fourth trimester for mothers, too. i wonder why we don t hear more about it. absolutely. when you think about it, you ve spent nine months carrying this little baby inside you. and then three months or whatever your maternity was doting on them and looking at them every second. and then all of a sudden, you re sitting there at a desk, and you re still in that fourth trimester. i mean, that is where you re sort of in the early stages. you are a different person after you become a mother. you re a better person. and so i think that we all need to remember that. and so when we talked about before, this really could be her shining moment. i think that is absolutely right. she is not just a great athlete now, but she is a great athlete and a great mother. and christine, you were talking about kind of this being her shining moment. you have serena williams talking about an issue that she s so passionate about. and so real about. you have lebron james speaking out in the past week about what he is passionate about. and doing now a documentary, i don t know where these people find the time. doing an documentary about the athletes and causes they care about. are we seeing a new moment? i feel like the pendulum swings back and forth, christine, of athletes are role models, athletes shouldn t be role models, athletes are role models. you nailed it. in the 60s, you had muhammad apply, billie jean king, many others. then michael jordan saying republicans buy sneakers, too, and tiger woods wanting to be more corporate. i think you re right. we re looking at athlete activism in a way that i don t know that we ve seen. it s coming from everywhere. what s great is that athletes have a voice and bring people to a conversation who otherwise would not be included. so whether it s bad things like the ohio state story right now or the michigan state horrors of usa gymnastics or important issues and happy things with the baby and then the did. issues involve that with serena williams, you have someone with a voice, serena williams, who has a way to reach people and brings people into a conversation who otherwise might be left out of the conversation. sports is this great common denominator. now it s bringing us to the issues in a meaningful way. i so want to see serena williams on the cover of marie claire again. i want to see her grace the pages of your magazine and see any conversation that you would have. what s your what s your, i don t know, message to serena today? just thank you. thank you from me and from all the new mothers out there. and thank you for sharing an sharing it on instagram. there s a lot of talk about fomo and how everyone s lives look beautiful on instagram. yes. for her to be honest and raw on instagram is really powerful. great to see you guys. thank you. great to see you, christine, elizabeth. thank you both. thank you very much. thanks, serena. coming up for us, president trump says he just slapped iran with what he calls the most biting sanctions ever imposed. iran s leader says let s talk. what happens now? that s next. no, what?? i just switched to geico and got more. more? got a company i can trust. that s a heck of a lot more. over 75 years of great savings and service. you can t argue with more. why would ya? geico. expect great savings and a whole lot more. feeclaritin and relief fromwsy symptoms caused by over 200 allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones. feel the clarity. and live claritin clear. nuclear program and sanctions the trump administration just reimposed this morning. president trump today tweeting this. these are the most biting sanctions ever imposed, and in november they ratchet up to yet another level. anyone doing business with iran will not be doing business with the united states. i am asking for world peace, nothing less. so now this is what we have. both the u.s. and iranian presidents saying they re ready to meet without preconditions. so now what? joining me now, cnn global affairs analyst aaron david miller, who served as middle east negotiator for republican and democratic administrations. aaron, help me with this one. you think they should plan a sit-down with iran, but not a summit. what are you looking for? what should happen here? you know what the end game is, kate, is unclear. what we don t need is another summit what i call another summit of the vanities. either with putin or even with kim. talking to north korea was important. it s just these unstructured summits which are a reflection of the president s desire to dominate the headlines and to somehow personally believe he can turn these leaders to his advantage doesn t work out very well. so no, i mean, we ought to be talking to the iranians if only to diffuse the possibilities of tension in the gulf and tone down some of the rhetoric, but there s got to be some sense of strategy. for now, it s good politics to weaken iran. as long as the president stays out of a war and the iranians don t ramp up their nuclear program, this is a kind of muddle through strategy, which will probably get you through the midterms. just through the midterms. all right. i hear you. but there s the long game, aaron. we could flip a coin. you asked me what the strategy is. we could flip a coin. same with north korea, with putin, with arab/israeli stuff. i hear you. it s hard. it s hard, that s why i bring you on. i never bring you on for the easy stuff, my friend. trump s national security adviser john bolton was out again today talking about the renewed sanctions on iran. let me play you what he said. the implications are already pretty profound. they ll grow more profound in november when the oil-related sanctions kick in as well. what s the real impact you think of the sanctions? i mean, the sanctions were on, the sanctions were relieved, the sanctions are now going back on. does this change behavior like the administration is hoping for, you think? it s certainly not going to change the regime, not any time soon. as far as changing behavior, i don t think so. not without a look, the administration can apply a lot of vinegar. the question is whether they re prepared to apply some honey in order to create the possibility of some sort of negotiation, but then you have to ask yourself, well, what are we negotiating? we re going back to the nuclear deal with the president that says it s the worst agreement in the history of the world. as far as a comprehensive agreement, one that stops iran s activities in the region, gets a better deal for mr. trump, i don t think neither iran nor mr. trump is prepared to pay the price for that. i wouldn t rule out, though, kate six, seven times already it s been in the wind that sometime this fall, maybe against the backdrop of the u.n. general assembly, there will, in fact, be another summit of the vanities. i d settle for a secret channel. wouldn t surprise me if they re working on it even now, to try to create a structured dialogue to see what s possible now between the u.s. and iran. that s the best you re going to hope for. yeah, when there are so many other countries who still want to be part of the now non-u.s. included nuclear deal. aaron, great to see you. thank you so much. take care, kate. let s see what happens tomorrow. coming up for us, rudy giuliani says the president s legal team is ready to respond to special counsel robert mueller. what giuliani s forecasting. he doesn t want the president to talk about it, and whether or not that means the president will ever sit down with the special counsel. that s next. to get your windshield fixed. teacher: let s turn in your science papers. tech vo: this teacher always puts her students first. student: i did mine on volcanoes. teacher: you did?! oh, i can t wait to read it. tech vo: so when she had auto glass damage. she chose safelite. with safelite, she could see exactly when we d be there. teacher: you must be pascal. tech: yes ma am. tech vo: saving her time. 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Former GOP representative Joe Scarborough and Mika Brezinski interview newsmakers, politicians and pundits about the issues of the day. jonathan, we re probably going to get swept in like three when we get divisional playoffs. so, i mean, but, listen, it was a fun summer. mika, why don t we go to the news. in an interview last night president trump s lawyer said special counsel robert mueller will personally have a lot to answer for just hours after they rejected mueller s reported latest offer to get a sit down interview with the president. trump s legal team said they have made the counteroffer listing their conditions for access to the president who is a subject in the wide-ranging investigation of russian interference in the 2016 election. trump s attorneys also publicly voiced their desire for the probe to end. within the next three weeks and suggested that mueller would be violating doj policies, if it does not end. don t have an internal deadline. we are moving. i use the phrase, expeditiously. i said and i know you said, we want to see this come to closure soon. mayer? it is about time it ends and i also think and i hope the special counsel as sensitive to it as we are, we don t want to run into the november elections. so back up from that. this should be over with by september 1st. if it isn t over by september, then we have a very, very serious violation of the justice department rules that you shouldn t be conducting one of these investigations in the 60-day period. but, what giuliani claims would be a serious violation is, in fact, a distortion as the justice department inspector general recently wrote that the 60-day rule is not written or described in any department policy or regulation. adding it is generalized, unwritten guidance that prosecutors did not indict political candidates or use overt investigative methods in the weeks before the election not that they terminate investigations. mika, it s important to remember that rudy giuliani back in the 1990s, he was into the investigation of bill clinton and it was perfectly fine that ken starr conducted an investigation and went on years and years through one election after another after another. robert mueller is not going to be indicting anybody right before an election and that will be consistent with guidelines. but you have, if you re in pursuit of a couple of dozen russians who you have evidence that violated american democracy and tried to undermine american democracy, you don t end that investigation because rudy giuliani tells you to end that investigation. in fact, you need guidance from rudy giuliani and go back on just about every topic and see what he said when republicans were indicting or trying to that s more ilegitimate than this one and i wonder where is the sense of justice on the part of mueller, on the part of the justice department. the real story here is not that this case isn t going to fizzle. it s going to blow up on them. the real question is, what we talked about before. a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet. and mueller is going to have a lot to answer for. you know, willie, with rudy giuliani going around and izeyes bulging while he s talking and looking disoriented, you look for excuses for america s mayor, for being this wildly off base. again, we just showed off the top of the show all of the members of the trump administration and the trump campaign that have already been indicted and are also, that have also pled guilty. that have already pled guilty. i mean, you on top of that have 25 russians. this is an active investigation. now, rudy giuliani says they have nothing. they already have trump s second campaign manager. trump s i mean, indicted. trump s deputy campaign manager indicted. trump s national security adviser indicted. this is like the grand jury indicted all of these people. trump s foreign policy adviser that he said was one of his two most important, indicted. trump s first campaign manager had charges dropped. and trump s first congressional endorser now indicted. the man who put him, who put his name into nomination for republican nominee now indicted. and 5 russi25 intel agencies sa is the forensic evidence of vladimir putin, the gru, ex-kbg agents trying to undermine de c democra democracy. how does rudy giuliani even have the nerve to go on there and say what he just said? that is an awful lot of indictments and plea bargains. trump s legal team continues to put out these arbitrary calls based on, i don t know what, other than they want it to end to clear the president. may 10th the vice president of the united states said, quote y think it s time to wrap it up. rudy giuliani said again, and also repeated last night that bob mueller doesn t have anything. laid out everything bob mueller has shown he has. neither rudy giuliani or you or i know what he has. first of all, the president s team who has been delaying for eight months an interview is also saying they need to hurry up and end. but, second, just look at i m just always amazed what the mayor s team will say on the record. what he said in that interview is that the president s story, if told to mueller, would put him into perjury. so, what he s saying is the president s story is wrong. it s a lie. he just admitted it on national tv because of the president s version is true, its it is not perjury trap. we have kind of blown right past the fact of what he admitted just there. matt miller, go ahead, joe. i was just going to say to nick, hey, nick, the point and people think i m joking about it. i m not. if i were president of the united states and all of my lawyers thought i was too stupid or too much of a liar to sit down and just talk to robert mueller, i d fire them. but this is all we have heard consistently from donald trump s lawyers. that he s too stupid to sit down with robert mueller. that mueller will twist his head in circles. or that he s such a liar that he can t, that it would be a, quote, perjury threat. now, listen, if i were going to sit down and ask you a series of questions, there would be a problem if the editors of new york times called me up and said, you know, we can t let nick know on today. why not? you ll catch him in lies. my response would be, don t lie. just have him tell the truth. this is what every time giuliani and his lawyers come on and say he s too stupid or he s just not smart enough. they say that behind the scenes to keep up with the robert mueller. but every time they come on to a show like hannity say we can t let him on because he ll perjure himself. he s such a liar, he can t help himself. sit down with the special counsel is no joke and even an innocent person would go into that with fear and trepidation. this is the president and he has a team of qualified lawyers around him who could prep him for this and if he can learn to tell the truth for two hours he could get through it. learn to tell the truth. here jewgiuliani is, what do he think we re, he accuses miller of thinking that the president s teams are fools. i think he should be accused of thinking the american people are fools. we need to like call it out. you know, this is ridiculous. they want justice, let s do the justice. you can demonstrate justice in front of us. what giuliani is doing. not much of a legal strategy. this is a public relation strategy. trying to drum up outrage among republicans or perhaps some independents about this probe. we have seen it s been somewhat effective. like the polling on mueller s probe has dropped in recent weeks and months. we know he s been chipping away at people who view this investigation has integrity and should continue. and they, meanwhile, as we just pointed out, they re the ones dragging this on. that s part of this argument. it s taking too long and a waste of taxpayer money and waste of time and distraction and slowing down the president s agenda and becoming more and more of a talk point and as the doj of regulation, mueller may push pause here but he doesn t have to wrap it up before september 1st. and, of course, we saw from james comey high doe doesn t ha push pause either. so, matt miller all the times i laid out previously that the trump administration and trump s lawyers have called for an end to it, bob mueller has ignored those calls. is he aware and conscious and do you think he feels any pressure from the outside on his investigation? i doubt he feels a lot of pressure from the outside. when bob mueller was running the fbi, he handled his job with the fbi the same way he handles this one which is to put his head down and plow forward. one of the interesting things about the president s strategy is i think the time when mueller s probe was in this long, kind of five-month period between when they indicted russians for the social media interference and indicted russians for the hacking. there was a five-month period where they were really dark. the president was making some headway arguing at this was going on too long. he is now back in business. he s back out. kind of indicting russians. and to the point i think jonathan made, you know f txwok president agreed to the interview a long time ago or drawn the line a long time ago, i m not going to agree to this interview, they re going to have a better case. but a better political case that this was going on too long. by dragging it out themself they are the ones responsible for the obstruction of justice portion of this. it could have been wrapped up a long time ago if the president aagreed to an interview. they re doing thedo their be but they re even horrible at this. i mean, you look at the fact that now the administration is saying that they are going to sanction russia and foreign governments for interfering with elections. they re doing that specifically because of the indictments that were laid down last month. robert mueller using the u.s. military information had the specifics of how the russians tried to destroy our election. what computer screens, what their key strokes were. what buildings they were in. the detail was so specific that we busted them red handed beyond any reasonable doubt. but think about this. if mike pence had his way and this had been shut down in may, like mike pence was saying, we would never have this evidence that, basically, showed what the russians tried to do and what they re going to try to do again in 2018. oh, yeah. that s just one part of it. i mean, for instance, before the mueller probe began, we were operating in which the trump campaign and trump white house was insisting that there was no contact with russians at all. but mike pence said, can you believe that mike pence actually had the nerve to say in 2017, we were never talking to any russians. nobody related to this campaign ever talked to any russians. we were talking to americans. just as extraordinary lie when you look at the collection of russians that they were talking to throughout 2016. i feel like sometimes people don t quite, it s not presented comprehensively in front of people and people don t grasp how much robert mueller and his team and sometimes we re jaded about it. for instance f , if we just fou out today there was a meeting in trump tower, we would think it is a political crisis but now it s. the issue and i think we have to bring this in here because it s a prong of this, it is not just the media pressure and it s not rudy giuliani going out there, there is intense capitol hill pressure, too. rachel maddow last night unearthed a private recording of devon nunez saying they were going to take another stab at the impeachment of rob rosen ste stein. so we have this congressional prong that seems to be working to provide some for the trump white house and to kasie because she s so plugged in on the hill. is this a serious threat from nunez or acting rogue here? we re going to have to ask paul ryan whether he would let something like that go forward. in theory, they could make that privilege and force his hand. but the broader point you re making, sam, is the right one. we re really headed for the real wreckeni reckoning and easy to lose sight of it and the drips out of the special counsel s office and evolving what seemed to me a set of excuses that rudy giuliani was giving to republicans that would question what is going on with robert mueller. but, look, republicans are going to have to decide at some point depending on what bob mueller is going to find. are they going to defend the president at all costs? that s what nunez is saying on that tape. he s saying no matter what mueller finds, we need to stand behind president trump. there is going to be republicans on the hill who are going to do that. and i think a wide middle that is going to have to really look inside themselves and decide, okay, how am i going to handle this? we saw that in water gate what turned the tide for richard nixon after it was clear that there was crimes that were proven that republicans in his own party turned on him. you know, if you look at devon nunez, if you look at some members of the freedom caucus, they remind me of the people that we conservatives used to call useful idiots that would fly down to nicaragua that the united states is doing terrible things and we re apologizing and we conservatives, we republicans called them useful idiots for always apologizing for the russians and always being part of the blame america first crowd. well, when you look at what leaders of the freedom caucus are doing, when you look at what nunez is doing, i think we need to stop saying what they re doing is trying to protect donald trump. because what they re actually doing is they re protecting vladimir putin and covering up more crimes that the united states military and intel agencies are digging at right now this very moment. they ve unearthed some of his crimes. they re looking for more crimes. but you have devon nunez bragging about trying to stop the investigation and russia s interference. it s shameful. a division within america in here between the white house and the institutions of america in here. we re actually, basically, what i hear about trump supporting and invade the investigation, i hear him defending the mafia, the biggest mafia of the world in vladimir putin, basically. you have a have to address him d address that head on rather than being divided among us. i feel like president trump has a choice here. step up and lead the country ethically speaking and stop defending corrupt leaders around the world. no sign that s happening any time soon. but that would be the hope. still ahead on morning joe criminal charges ahead, chris collins says he will be on the ballot this november. we ll break down the government s case against him and what it means for republicans message heading into the midterms. you re watching morning joe. we will be right back. you ve tried moisturizer after moisturizer but one blows 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been sleepi sleeping. he did an interview addressing the back lash for the first time. kasie doesn t like dave, but they do, along but they go to every phish show. before you go hating on dave matthews, you need to watch the movie lady burird. i have seen it. you realize where they re making fun of dave matthews, it is the mean girls making fun, you re being a mean girl about dave matthews. i m hurt by that accusation, joe. i really am. the boys i went to high school with who listen to dmb just left it, i can t do it. i can t do it. so, sam stein, is this sort of is this along the line of creed. is this like a creed/nickelback backlash? am i wrong? yeah, you re wrong. i don t know. it s the fans of dave matthews. who we recall as the big fans of dave matthews from high school and college and, of course, willie, have turned us against him. is this what we re really talking about today? can we please move on. i have to say, willie, you know, alex says we re circling the drain. we re down the drain. we re not circling. you know, i did not for some reason like steely dan when i was in high school and college, but i like him now. some great music. okay. i m going to help alex and try to pull us up out of the drain. mika, this is for you. chris collins of new york has been charged with insider trader and lying to investigators alleged to have worked with his son to avoid significant losses on a inesthavestment. prosecutors say collins was at a congressional picnic at the white house last year when he learned that they received bad news about a drug trial for the company s only product. he served on a board for three years until 2017 and remains one of the biggest shareholders. the congressman frantically attempted to reach his son, cameron, who he tipped off to the corporate information days before it was made public. they claim cameron collins and several others used the information to avoid more than $700,000 in losses. when news of the failed drug trial was made public, the shares of the company aplplumme. he refuted the allegations against him. the charges that have been levied against me are meritless. and i will mount a vigorous defense in court to clear my name. i look forward to being fully vindicated and exonerated ending any and all questions related to my affiliation. as i fight to clear my name, rest assured i will continue to work hard for the people and constituents of the 27th congressional district of new york and i will remain on the ballot, running for re-election this november. you know, collins is just the latest member in the trump orbit to find himself in legal jeopardy over financial gain, including at least one with the same prosecutor. his former personal attorney as president, michael cohen, also as you know, under investigation by the southern district of new york for tax fraud. that, according to wall street journal. cohen simultaneously served the president and had a business and cashed in on his connections. a top donor agreed to paid cohen $10 million if he successfully pushed a project. sitting with questions of financial misdoings. forbes recently, man, what a report, that commerce secretary wilbur ross practices have sparked lawsuits and reimbursements and a fine from sec and tom price was also questioned about a favorable purchase of a stock at the time that was also at the center of collins arrest. price was fired amid scandals and former epa administrator scott pruitt talk about the swamp. it s now up to trump s neck. he, of course, intendinattended white house and then he was allowed to resign. but, willie, there is such a such a culture of corruption there. somebody yesterday said that collins had to feel picked on when you had wilbur ross, in their words, doing insider trading at a pace the guy thought he only had two weeks to live. and, you know, since trump says he s only good until 11:00 a.m. in the morning, that was a pretty busy 9:30 to 11:00 block to do insider trading. you look. look at the forbes article. just a culture of corruption and, of course, as they always say, the fish rots from the head. matt miller, these are just the people around, profiting off hotels and ivanka had to shut down her clothing line. they put money in a trust that does not isolate them from profits, certainly, to put it mildly. i think joe hit the nail on the head when he called it a culture of corruption. democrats have the ability now to make this case that there is this culture that starts at the top with donald trump and starts with his family members and pervasive throughout his administration and also list the treasury secretary on government planes and under inspector general investigations and now moving it over to a member of congress. the problem for other members of congress. this is not to say every republican member of congress is corrupt. of course, not. but every one is allowing this to go unchecked. no one in a leadership one on tg we need to stop it and investigate it and shine some sunlight. that becomes a political vulnerability for all of them. one of the interesting subplots of this chris collins thing, he is the second person to literally have committed a crime on the white house grounds. they made that call while he was standing on the white house grounds. it s the same place where mike flynn, in his white house office sat down with the fbi and lied to the fbi. the highest crime rate of any neighborhood in washington. i don t know if i ll go that far but maybe. you know, the point that i keep coming back to is 2006. that year democrats mounted a fairly robust culture of corruption campaign to take back the house. and it was effective. you talk to any democratic strategists that work in those races. that was the theme that they resonate the most. this go around you have arguably way more data points to point to here as we listed right now. but i don t see democrats making this case. i mean, matt s right. i mean, you could argue that a really effective campaign strategy say, look, republicans are letting this go unchecked and we have x, y and z and you need to elect us so we can actually bring some ethics and disability and oversight to this process. but that s not really in the democratic playbook and i m not entirely sure why. democrats almost have an embarrass of riches to figure out how to run and some people who are nervous on that side that they will not come with a clear message, it will be too muddled. if they regain control of the house, something that trump allies have told me. more than impeachment proceedings which could be a gift to the president. day after day and where they re marching up every single person who has any affiliation in front of the cameras on capitol hill and bogging them down that way. to follow up on matt s point, it s remarkable. the indictment has the listed time in which he makes the call to his son to tell him this. footage of him on the phone at that moment. there aren t too many occasions where we have live streams of insider trading. beyond democrats, iful feel like we ne to have we have politicians helping write the ethics rules of insider trading and all of these things corrupt. we need to go back beyond the parties and we need to go back to the people and people need to vote for people who are ethical. go back to the people and people want ethics and valus and all of these things. i want to say one thing, though. he needs to have a fair investigation is the fair thing in here. so, we do need to give due process due process so we don t jump to conclusion but we need to watch all the warning signs in here and go back, again, to saying what is right and what is wrong. well, kasie hunt, that is absolutely right and to an extent i think people are open to the truth. joe found out on the campaign trail himself giving his constituents bad news in realtime, even if they didn t like hearing it, that helped him actually at the polls. but in this case, the truth is being so devalued. i just worry that it s going to be a very difficult landscape running up to the midterms and beyond for republicans especially for some of who are participati participating. that answers sam s question why democrats aren t using this broadly. they tried this against president trump and they tried to make everything stick and nothing sticks to the guy, it seems. i m not convinced based on my reporting that is going to be true in the midterm elections and strategists are saying people are demanding more from their candidates, but part of the reality is, too, democrats aren t calling for collins to be shoved out of office. that s partly because, you know, they face their own ethical problems. i mean, bob menendez fought an indictment while he remained for quite a while in a powerful post on the foreign relations committee. this is a problem that goes across the establishments in washington and i think people are frustrated by that. and don t forget, one thing animating the democratic base right now is opposition to corporate money in elections. one litmus test issue for a lot of progressive candidates is are they refusing to take donations from corporate packs? that s also something that leadership in washington is grappling with. they re not sure what to do about it. i do think they re creating some problems for themselves in that way. still ahead, another trump campaign figure facing serious legal jeopardy. we ll check in on paul manafort s trial. how an alleged $16 million spending spree came into play. that s coming up on morning joe. you re turning onto the street with i get rewarded explowherever i go. going out for a bite. rewarded! going new places. rewarded! learn more at theexplorercard.com testified that the former trump campaign chairman had at least $16 million in unreported income from ukraine, which manafort allegedly spent between 2010 and 2014. just a few years before he sought an unpaid role leading the president s campaign. after the conclusion of testimony by manafort s deputy rick gates there was a tense moment between counsel prosecutors when ellis discovered an expert witness had been in the courtroom for other testimony. as the washington post described ellis erupted saying that he typically bars all witnesses, save the case agent from observing the proceedings and thought he had done so in this case. u.s. attorney uzo asonye said he believed the transcript and ellis snapped. i don t care what the transcript said. maybe i made a mistake. don t do it again. matt miller, the judge, the judge has been bheads with the prosecution and doesn t seem to like the prosecuting attorneys too much. what is going on there? i think a little case of black robitis. he is known to be a tough judge and he has been out of line here. if you look at him here. almost like when your parents say, doesn t matter what i said, do this anyway. sort of admitting that even if he made a mistake he s blaming the prosecutors on it. he is accusing one of the prosecutors of crying. i think the ultimate question is what impact it will have on the case. if this were a much closer case, i bet the prosecution would be pretty worried that his remarks some of which would be in front of the jury would have an impact. such strong evidence against paul manafort and such strong evidence of his guilt that it is not likely to tip at end the of the day. i was surprised when the judge told one of the attorneys to stop crying in the courtroom. he s like, i m not crying. it s just like yesterday where they said, but you said he could. read the transkrcript. i don t care what s in the transcript. not the sort of stable justice that you want overseeing an important case like this. what is his story, what is his background. let me just say something about the crying. that particular prosecutor that was crying. he locked up the family in new york and actually, actually had to be around the clock protection because while he was investigating, they tried to assassinate him and have him killed. i doubt he was crying in the courtroom because of tough words from the judge. this judge has been on the bench for long time. you know, judges, look, they have lifetime terms for a reason. to make them insulated from political pressure and lack of accountability. i think largely we like that, but there are always down sides that come with the good sides. you see some judges that have this arrogant approach in the courtroom and you hear from people who practice in that court that judge ellis is like that in a lot of cases, but he s also a judge that i think when reporters are in the room and high profile and likes to show off a little bit for the press and i think you re seeing some of that here. all so fascinating. the ohio congressional race that was already too close to call gets even tighter, thanks to a couple hundred uncounted votes. we ll show you where the candidates stand this morning. we ll be right back. 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didn t know he wasn t cool. i think he s great. everybody just stop. we re all so old. still ahead president trump and his legal team appear to be playing hardball with robert mueller over a possible interview. member of the judiciary committee senator richard blumenthal will join us to weigh in on that and rudy giuliani s timeline for the russia probe, rudy expects it to be done soon so i guess we should all hurry. plus, we ll talk to the michigan demonstrate who is poised to become the first muslim woman in congress. rashida talib will be our guest coming up on morning joe . 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hill and i just sort of couldn t believe what i was seeing. so much history and so much turmoil for this country all wrapped up in his story. but, really, willie, it s interesting the only time richard nixon broke down in public. anybody saw him breaking down in public was when his wife pat died. at the funeral he broke down so much he was embarrassed about it later. but that 44 years ago, john meacham says it s his first memory of any news event despite the fact all he talks about is the french and indian war. we should talk more about watergate. walter isaacson is here, the new york times tweeted out their front page. still takes your breath away for a skorngsd president of the united states resigns from office. yeah. the issue here is that it resonates with what happens today. it s an obstruction of justice. nixon afterwards and mika remembered him being sad. afterwards nixon became kind of a statesman. he talked about the world, doing discussions. he would do these amazie ing to. during his time in office he became unhinged when it came to justice. we have to go back and look at things. walter, i m curious, when you look at the people that got indicted, got in trouble during the nixon administration, we went over a laundry list and, of course, nixon was in for six, seven years before things really completely blew up for him. just in a year s time, a little over a year s time donald trump has seen his first campaign manager or second campaign manager indicted in a trial right now. his first national security adviser indicted, pled guilty. his deputy campaign manager indicted, pled guilty. a guy that worked for him through the inauguration who, of course, already pled guilty. one of his top campaign foreign policy advisers pled guilty and is pleading with the government. his first congressional endorser and member of his transition team has pled guilty. along with 29 russians. we don t know what the 29 russians have been indicted, what they have to do with the trump campaign and whether there is a conspiracy to influence the election. that s part of the investigation, but even if you just look at the list there s one, two, three, four, five, six, seven six or seven people that have already been indicted and most of them pleading right now, guilty. how does that stack up with nixon and watergate even seven years in? well, it s stinkier in a way because he said drain the swamp. so many of these things involved just people wanting to make large sums of people. people slurping at the trough like the congressman doing insider trading on the white house lawn. nixon at least wasn t lining his pockets. you see that with the trump hotels and their businesses and finances. this is the type of thing voters rebelled against which is this pure line your pockets and get rich type of corruption. the other thing is nixon did like trump try to discredit the institutions of our society. discredit our norms. but nixon never went as far as this to call, you know, to try to obstruct justice publicly in a way that trump is doing. so, it s amazing that we ve gotten back to this. it is amazing. sam stein, of course, you re reporting always tries to take it to a higher level, 30 years after, of course, richard nixon resigned you are, of course, digging deep into a controversy about the dave matthews band and what happened in chicago 30 years later. don t do it. and scandal, sam, that according to your reporting was called poopgate. explain. okay. it s breakfast time. we were doing so well. you want to jump off of walter s point? i m only quoting your tweet, sam. you just tweeted it like ten minutes ago. don t sit there acting all innocent. follow up on walter s well, i ll say talk about watergate or poopgate. and maybe you can weigh in on this. i was struck by how a lot of what we see with trump, we sort of don t take as seriously as maybe we should because it happened so out in the open. so for instance, a tweet he put up a week and a half ago, roughly, in which he basically was talking about firing jeff sessions for not closing down the investigation. i thought at the time that was pretty wild. then i thought to myself, having read the memo and sent it privately to jeff sessions about getting rid of the investigation into russian collusion and that memo has been read by a journalist we would think this is the craziest thing ever. because he tweets it out in the open part of us think this is trump being trump. same thing to a lesser degree with the respective break in. so if the russians had literally broken into the dnc and stolen a file cabinet as opposed to hacking e-mail account, maybe we would conceive of this differently because it would be physical as opposed to something on the internet. i m wondering to a degree, how does this affect our thinking? well all of our norms have been totally disrupted and when you set out to break norms, norms get broken. we now have a society in which people can do things like openly to affect justice. openly line their pockets. and somehow we ve become ignored to it. if we watch it in plain sight it s like they destroyed all the norms. the biggest norm of all which even nixon tried to do, i m trying to bring people together. i m a unifier. here you have a guy who outright tries to divide the couldn t. yeah. yep. you had watergate tapes and now this time around you just have everything that the president says on television. there s no tapes to be uncovered. as you see with us we have sam stein, walter isaacson. the fact that omarosa thinks he s unhinged. omarosa can secretly tape the president of the united states inside the white house, the fact that his lawyer and so-called fixer is taping the white house, what do you think the russians and the chinese what a useful idiot is what they are thinking. the fact that he would bring in someone close, that he would be so unbelievably reckless to bring in someone close who would audiotape their conversations. what kind of people do you have around you? again, he needs a wall around him. white house reporter for the associated press jonathan lam erelameer is with us. kasie hunt is with us. joe, are the google dolls cool or uncool? that s a good one. let me tell you something. the google dolls are cool. amazing. iris amazing. you know what if you don t like the dolls, if you don t think black balloons aren t the best songs of the 90s turn off the tv right now. and eamon javers is here. he often sings his questions to the white house staff and the president in tune. i was more of a punk rock guy than a google dolls guy. they were harder core and then drifted more into a poppy kind of thing. i liked them before they sold out. i liked them before they sold out and after they sold out. it s great. you re good with all of it. anybody like pink floyd? we all liked pink floyd. got it. okay. here we go. in an interview last night president trump s lawyer said special counsel robert mueller will personally have a lot to answer for just hours after they rejected mueller s reported latest offer to get a sit down interview with the president. trump s legal team said they made a counter offer. i m sure it s fantastic. there was one of my favorite episodes on the simpsons was when lionel huts said to mr. burns we have a counter offer, we think you ll like it. and actually mr. burn turned it around and he wrote zero. he picked it up and said we ll take it. release the hounds. that s what robert mueller is thinking right now. you have a counter offer. listen, i got what they call a subpoena. i ll just put that one on you any time you want. this is incredible. so trump s team listed their conditions in their counter offer for access to the president who is the subject in the wide ranging investigation of russian interference in the 2016 election. which endangers this country. trump s attorneys also publicly voiced their desire for the probe to end within the next three weeks. that s not going to happen either. and suggested mueller would be violating doj policies if it does not. actually that s a lie. giuliani went on to challenge the special counsel s motive for seeking an interview and suggested mueller will soon be the one under screw ti. i. not true. we offered them an opportunity to do a form of questioning. he can say yes or no. we can do it. if he doesn t want to do it. he knows the answers to every question that he wants to ask. he s going to ask him did you tell comey to go easy on flynn. the president will say no i didn t. hey, bob, you know it. why do you want to get him under oath. do you think we re fools. you want to trap him in perjury. we re not going to let you do that. i ve never been involved in an investigation on either side that s more illegitimate than this one, that s so more obviously illegitimate and i wonder where the sense of justice is on the part of mueller, on the part of the justice department. the real story here is not that this case isn t going to fizzle, it will blow up on them. the real question is what we talked about before, there s a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet and mueller is going to have a lot to answer for. the investigation here has to be on the investigators because we cannot let this happen again in american history. we may not have a president as strong as president trump. unless a president could have really been cracked by this. walter, i m an older guy. i know you, of course, are not, you re a spring chicken. yes, he is. us older guys do you remember that unbelievable saying in absence of malice when it was said, i got these things called subpoenas, now you can talk to me now or i can give you a subpoena. and either way i m going to talk to you and i m going to get the truth out. rudy giuliani of all people trying to negotiate whether donald trump is going to talk to robert mueller is so rich because it was rudy giuliani in 1998 who told charlie rose when we re talking about bill clinton, it doesn t matter whether the president wants to talk to the special counsel or not, if he s given a subpoena, he has to comply and sit down and talk to the special prosecutor. you know, rudy giuliani keeps going on air to make it seem more and more like there s smoking guns all over the place. he s doing the greatest disservice to a client i ve ever seen a lawyer do. then he says well we don t want to testify because trump may accidentally tell the truth or he may end up lying and both will be bad. well it s just ridiculous what he says trying to trap him in perjury, it wouldn t be perjury if trump went there and just told the truth. so i don t know why giuliani is out there unless he s some sort of weird agent trying to undermine his client and to make this investigation look even more stronger than it is. he s out there because he wants, it s a very simple political objective which is to turn public opinion against robert mueller. only way you ll do that is hammering him every day. main people who are receptive are people who watch fox news. it s not just republicans who are souring on robert mueller specifically it s viewers of fox news who are souring on robert mueller s investigation, that s because there s a constant drum beat of negativity from rudy giuliani real quickly, let s say it quickly. robert mueller has not been leaking. of course. he s an honorable man. he s been extremely successful in this. he s a life long republican. he s a person who has served the country with honor. how can they have no shame when they do this? this is tactical and not just with the mueller investigation. i go back to this quote that trump gave. he talked cynically about his anti-press comments, this whole fake news thing. he said very clearly the reason i m doing it is because i want to be so when you report critical stories of me half the country doesn t believe it. that s obvious. they have been softening the ground whatever mueller comes out with they discredit it to people who believe this. they have been reporting this from vice president pence down to rudy giuliani. time to wrap it up. they are giving a directive to robert mueller to wrap up the investigation. it s worth taking a step back. robert mueller is looking at russian interference into the election. we ve seen very little concern of that from the president of the united states. we know, of course, he missed the opportunity in helsinki to chastized putin on the world stage. we know justin last week or so, we saw that display of force at the white house where his national security officials did finally talk about steps we ll take. warned about russia doing it again in the mid-terms this fall. but that felt like a moment of president versus presidency. they seem very out of step. hours later donald trump goes to a rally in pennsylvania. i was there and said called the whole thing a hoax, it was a hindrance and holding back our ability to have a better relationship with russia. this is what they were doing. mueller will not leak, talk publicly and they are just going hammer away. as you say weigh down public opinion and eventually to when mueller does deliver this report to have half the country not believe it. walter, i want to ask you a question. the way i hear it is a bunch of bully, bullying everybody, and distracting everyone from the truth. if you go back to nixon, how do you take back the discussion, actually? how do you go back to what is real, what is unreal and what is untrue? the way we did it is the way we did it when it happened with nixon. honorable people in the republican party. honorable people in all parties. honorable people in the administration step forward and say no this is not what america is about. we try to tell truth. a lot of republicans are not stepping forward and playing the trump game. what s your message to them. how do we speak to fox news people audience. in the mid-term elections people say this culture ever corruption is not something i want to have continue. leadership in the republican party, they will follow what they hear. it only happens if the mid-terms vote out some of the people who have been spineless. we know congressional republicans are helping the president do his bidding on this. they presented the freedom caucus did anyway on the idea of impeachment. rod rosenstein deputy attorney general is overseeing the special counsel s investigation. rachel maddox played last night in primetime devon nunes saying they would like to get rod rosenstein but wait until after kavanaugh has been seated on the supreme court. what s happening on the capitol hill as they rally around the president. you look at the president and say those voters who were supporting the president those are our voters too. therefore, we got to do what the president wants. we have to appeal to those voters. at the same time you have this bizarre sort of long form slow motion negotiation, the ultimate art of the deal in term of whether the president will sit down or not sit down. look at the timeline. you see rudy giuliani on tv saying we want mueller to wrap this up, we want it to be over by september 1st. but you have these offers and counter offers going back and forth. it seems as if the giuliani team has an incentive to stretch this out than wrap it up. and push it past the september timeline. and then at some point the department of justice will not want to move forward with anything dramatic if you get too close to that mid-term election because we ll have the same problem we had back in 2016 with announcements coming out that could be accused of manipulating the election. if you look at the series of offers and counter offers going back and forth about whether the president will sit down. i did some reporting on this yesterday. some people involved in all of this who feel there will be more rounds of offers and counter offers. i think that ultimately helps the president push this out as far as he can, push it closer to the mid-term election. that gives them many months to try to tilt public opinion against the mueller investigation. the longer they stretch this out the better they are despite what rudy giuliani is saying. so, you obviously, are covering the chris collins investigation. give us a sense of where it goes from here and how it plays into all the problems plaguing this presidency or the questions plaguing this presidency. chris collins said last night up in buffalo he ll fight this. he thinks he s done nothing wrong. he said he lost money himself personally on this insider trade. that s not the issue. what the prosecutors have alleged is that what chris collins did was use his position on the board of the company to illegally tip off his son and his son was then able to avoid masses losses. when that stock went down 92% when it turned out that the drug that the company made didn t work at all that was a dramatic loss for the son and some of the friends and family around the son, they were facing that loss. able to sell and get out ahead of it and dump that loss on other unsuspecting people in the financial markets. collins said i held on to mimi shares personally i didn t do anything wrong. i lost millions of dollars on this trade. prosecutors say all you need is somebody with a fiduciary obligation to the company which collins did have then tips and then a trade and then you have illegal nude e insider trader. collins will fight eight and run for re-election. will he be able to win while still under indictment and that s possible. all right. cnbc s eamon javers. thank you so much for being on. a punk rock fan. i want you to play the ramones all day on your office computer. i doubt we ll do that. mika, we met thank you. by the way, it was great to meet jimmy buffett a couple of weeks ago. you were on stage on broadway playing. jimmy was nice enough. margaritaville. this is a guy that bob dylan told rolling stone of his favorite songwriter. he s playing fenway tonight. wish i could be there. he s playing fenway tonight. he fills it up like every year. kind of crazy. so cool. still ahead on morning joe, senator richard blumenthal joins the table. he ll weigh in on the secret recording of devon nunes. you re watching morning joe . we ll be right back. when you rent from national. it s kind of like playing your own version of best ball. because here, you can choose any car in the aisle, even if it s a better car class than the one you reserved. so no matter what, you re guaranteed to have a perfect drive. 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i m going to stick with mine. i feel no guilt about the dave matthews band. there s a large faction of americans who don t like dave matthews and i picked him up in college. good memories around it. no apologies. but there s a backlash against dave matthews. bunch of hippies. in the next segment sam stein wants to ask you about the steve miller band. come on. sam not here at the moment. let s turn to united states senator who is waiting patiently counselor you opened up the door on the steve miller band. you re not going to stop. steve miller band had a couple of extraordinary albums like from 75, 77, 78. take it up to stein. hit me where i live. take the money and run. this guy was great on immigration policy. let s get right into it. a member of the progressive group provided the rachel maddox show of you a do of david nunes speaking at a fundraiser in washington last week for kathy rogers. in the recording nunes and rogers said rod rosenstein cannot be impeached but only because it would imperil the nomination of brett kavanaugh. say he should not impeached. nunes spoke about the importance of protecting president trump. so i don t think you ll get argument from most of our colleagues. the question is the timing of it right before the election. the senate has to start the senate would have to drop everything they are doing and start to, start with impeachment of rod rosenstein. then you take the risk of not getting kavanaugh approved. so it s not a matter of impeaching rod rosenstein it s a matter of timing. so there in lies your catch 22 situation where it puts us in a tough spot. that s why we have to keep this. we have to keep the majority. if we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away. that s the voice of devin nunes. nunes office did not return calls seeking a response. joining us now a member of the judiciary and armed services committee senator richard blumenthal. thank you for your patience. let s talk about what you just heard. not news that devin nunes believes rod rosenstein should be impeached. he said it publicly. the freedom caucus introduced the idea of impeaching rod rosenstein as deputy attorney general. house speaker paul ryan came out the next day and said he did not support that, the impeachment of rod rosenstein. what nunes is saying there we ll put it to the side for a moment while we get kavanaugh on the bench. but we come back to the idea that rod rosenstein should be impeached. what does that tell you and how seriously do you take that? that tells me republican leadership is putting priority on confirmation of brett kavanaugh. we may be the one to determine whether the president has to comply with the subpoena. this strategy is really the most craven and brazen kind of politics in its approach to undermining the rule of law and the second point to be made here is that the reason for retaining a republican majority is simply to protect the president against potential consequences that may involve other subpoenas uncovering other wrongdoing. this culture of corruption is so pervasive, wilbur ross, other members of the cabinet, the president himself violating the clause by taking foreign benefits and payments. we have sued the president, other members of congress have join my lawsuit. it s unparalleled in american history. as you look ahead at the dominos that could fall if somehow rod rosenstein were impeached is that to put somebody in place, do you believe who could then fire robert mueller. is that the ultimate goal? that s a really key question because people look at the special counsel and say his position is critical, which it is. but ultimately the one responsible for approving the potential indictment, all of the budget, all the personnel of the special counsel is, in fact, the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. so in firing him or impeaching him or unrecusing the attorney general to fire him is really at the core of what i think this strategy is. senator, a question for you. nunes is known as somebody who hates the investigation, who has cast doubt on it. but seeing the number for house republicans echo his comments, rogers echoing his sense of the strategy was new to me and i wonder if you take that to mean that the full house leadership is actually secretly behind this plan to impeach the deputy attorney general? in my view the republican leadership is ambivalent. it knows what the right thing to do here is. it needs the grit and back bone to stand up and really uphold the rule of law. and that applies to brett kavanaugh as well because right now the republicans are engaged in a conscious effort to hide and conceal documents that are necessary to evaluate brett kavanaugh s nomination. they ve not only limited the scope of the documents to exclude all the relevant paper and communications involving brett kavanaugh s service in the bush white house as staff secretary but they ve also turned over the screening process to a team of republican lawyers headed by a lawyer who was, in fact, kavanaugh s deputy in the bush white house. and now is serving as a lawyer to a number of people in the bush administration or formerly in the bush administration like brett kavanaugh and they are cherry picking, pre-screening, sanitizing documents so that we have now filed a freedom of information request, we the democrats on the senator judiciary committee, we did it yesterday, because it s the last resort. you know, walter, getting back to devin nunes and what devin nunes strategy is going against rod rosenstein, even the white house sources are telling reporters that the white house considers nunes and the freedom caucus attacks on rod rosenstein to be a joke. they know it s not serious. they know it s not going anywhere. yet you just wonder why paul ryan is allowing it to continue, and people are now looking about and trying to figure out what paul ryan s legacy is going to be. right now if this continues his legacy is allowing a guy to destroy the intel community s bipartisanship, historically bipartisan nature and secondly allowing members to run around and try to provide cover for vladimir putin by destroying an investigation that looks that putin is crying to undermine american democracy. it s pretty straightforward isn t it? the white house considers it a bit of a joke that nunes is acting this way but it s not a joke. we used to be able to have a consensus in congress that people are going to rise above partisanship at times like when we got attacked by russia. i would love to turn it to the senator because i don t quite i mean you remember the times when there would be republicans and democrats who say, okay, this transcends our partisan differences, let s figure it it out. other than bob corker and jefr flake who are honest. republicans in the senate are talking to you and saying maybe we ought to move this along. i know mark warner has had some success on the intelligence committee doing that. is there some hope there? i always have hope. that s the reason i go to work in the mornings. but i am deeply disappointed in the republican leadership in the senate as well as the house. they ve really collapsed like rusty lawn chairs. and the real crying need is to return to that bipartisan consensus. we face an ongoing threat. not only the special prosecutor looking at putin and the potential conspiracy involving the trump campaign in the past and obstruction of justice which is unfolding before our eyes in real-time it s looking forward what putin is doing right now, the pervasive and ongoing threat to our democracy is what s really important. looking into the florida voting wells too and it s amazing to me that both parties don t want to say let s stop russia from hacking our election system. they are saying the right thing. but what s missing is action. and that will require republicans really standing up to be counted. as they did during watergate. senator richard blumenthal, thank you so much for being on morning joe today. still ahead, in 2016 she was booted out of a luncheon for heckling donald trump. now she s on course to become the first muslim woman in congress. rashida tlaib joins us next on morning joe . oh! oh! ozempic®! 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(vo) ask your healthcare provider if ozempic® is right for you. muslim woman ever elected to congress and thank you for being on this morning. thank you for having me. so let s start with tezy questio the easy question but i have to love it. why your running? look, i m really tired of being outside of the ring, especially now during a time when our country, i think, a lot of us are going through what i really believe is a troubling time in history where we don t feel like we belong or that we feel we re being left behind no matter your background. i think a lot of us on the 13th congressional district want to be able to have equal access to thrive and that s what i ran on and that s why i felt this need to run and to really fight back for all the families that are my neighbors, the people that, you know, helped raise me in the community, and i m really excited for the opportunity to actually be able to be a voice for all of them. rashida tlaib, first congratulations for winning. my question for you is you re a woman of color, you re of muslim you are a muslim, of immigrant origin. your parents are immigrants. you just won. how are your going to speak to some of the white americans who are scared, who are scared of they are going to be a minority, scared of people of color, of immigrants. how do you reach out to them and make sure they are on board with you and see you as an ally. it has to be through action not just through words. so for me my congressional district is predominantly african-american and white. many of them supported me primarily because of my history in the michigan legislature and what i stood up for. and many of them are going to have to have that direct human contact with me and the work i m going to do. and throughout the district i ll create neighborhood service centers getting people to every day issues will go hand-in-hand with the legislative work i do. it has to be through actions. they have to be able to proudly say yes she represents my ovals, she represents what i m about. so many of us want to only be able to label people. she s a child of immigrant. she s palestinian. she s arab. she s a woman. but i m a girl who grew up one wayne county like them. many of them really relate to the fact of my struggles as a new mom with the public school system, growing up in again in detroit with all of the different issues with poverty and challenges that we face every single day. so it s going to be through action and going to be able to be spoiled by me and they are going to forget that i may not look like them, but i think me having the similar challenges and me having their backs is what i think they are going remember and why they are going to be able to continue to support me. fair enough. yet we have a president who is working on divisive politics in this country. it s about us and them and fear is a major role in that. how are you going to address that? you know in terms of divisiveness, in terms of fear of muslims. you know beyond action, how are you addressing that sentimentally even in your own words. our country is not divided. people truly believe that. i believe we re disconnected. i stood up when president trump called mexicans rapists. i stood up and absolutely said that s the most unamerican thing company have said. absolutely unfair. i stood up for my african-american neighbors when police brutality is still number one issue. black lives matter to me is something that i stand up for because as an american we all should be standing up for. we are just as connected. that s the problem with our country. that disconnection is why, you know, president trump and all the different people that are surrounding him are able to be able to be loud and be able to continue to divide us is because we re not talking to each other and i m hoping to be able to build a lot of that connection so that people can see just how beautiful our country is and we ll continue to be able to be. beautiful country. we just saw the video footage of the august 2016 donald trump speech which you were thrown out of. walk us through that moment. what were you proifting. what were you trying to communicate there. can any line be drawn from that day to what happened this week with you now running for office? you should know that moment. it wasn t just me. it was 12 other women that were with me that day. every two minutes he was asked a question. this was the first time ever that the detroit economic club didn t allow us to ask questions. he was a candidate that wanted to run for president of the united states. people don t always ask me what did you say? i asked him have you ever read the u.s. constitution. it was important to me because he was pushing for the muslim ban. he was pushing for things i thought was against core values of our country and against the essence of the u.s. constitution. and all of us as i stood there, you know, i did it as a former michigan state representative and a lot of women knew i was coming they felt a sense of like okay if she can do it i can do it. i wanted to help elevate their voices and stand up. i m proud of that moment because it was the most american thing i ever could have done to push back on that rhetoric. he was spewing out so much of information but not really getting to the core issues that were important to me and the other women that were in that room. sam stein here. i think to mika s point about women running for office, the man you will likely replace, representative john conyers was ousted in part because he was accused of being a serial sexual harasser of people in his office. he denies it, of course, but that was the context of him leaving office. so i m not asking you to speak specifically to his case, but in general how much do you think this me too movement has both p deciding to run, but also voting sentiment about with what type of public officials they want holding public office? i think, you know, it s really important to know congressman conyers was pretty courageous. one of the things you should know about him is he voted against the iraq war when it was unpopular. he voted against the patriotic act, one of the very few. we never had to check him on his votes. obviously the me too movement is something that is very close to me because i m a victim of sexual harassment. i remember that moment of not really understanding what just happened. it was my first job out of college. there are people in leadership, not only in congress, but if companies all across the country and different areas of the vector of business, film, you name it that are silent that are now speaking up and pushing back against the environment that is very toxic and unfair for women. and i m really somebody that i hope to bring a voice to and i know that for us women, we wait to be needed. we wait until, you know, i call it the bat signal. that s correct. trump was so much the bat signaller for us like, women, we have to push forward. people laugh at me when i say clear tout room, boys, it s time for us. i don t care if you re a democrat or a republican woman, if you put us in a room to fix and deal with the gun crisis, we would do it in a matter of a few hours. we re so much more courageous when it comes to those kinds of issues that are very personal to us. and i m hoping that we fill the halls of congress with moms like me, with people that are so much more focused because we have so much more at stake when we re not in the room. and we have so much to offer. you touch on so many points that i work, rashida, every day to express to the know your value community. and i met a woman running for congress yesterday who is stepping up for many of the same reasons. women may be reticent to step up, but with when we do, we are so frustrated and we have waited so long for our moment that we re like, we re doing it, move over. rashid, you re a politician, an attorney, a mother and a wife, you are the child of immigrants. thank you. still ahead, three weeks after the one-on-one meeting between president trump and vladimir putin, the u.s. announces new sanctions on russia over the poisoning of of a former spy in the uk. morning joe will be right back. this is a story about mail and packages. and it s also a story about people. people who rely on us every day to deliver their dreams they re handing us more than mail they re handing us their business and while we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget. that your business is our business the united states postal service. priority: you the full value oft wyour new car? 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i said nothing, literally. come on. do you want to shaure it with te rest of the class? steve miller rocks the house. that s how steve miller is. as rudy giuliani explains, the special counsel wants to get the president under oath to trap him into perjury. plus, republican congressman chris collins isn t the only person in trump s orbit with who is entangled in financial trouble. we re going to go down the list and it s a long one. morning joe will be right back. fact is, every insurance company hopes you drive safely. now that you know the truth. are you in good hands? i have the honor of seconding the nomination of donald j. trump as the next president of the united states of america. that is congressman chris collins, just over two years ago at the republican national convention. today, he joins this list of people charged with or pleading to crimes. trump s second campaign manager, trump s deputy campaign manager, trump s first national security adviser, trump s campaign foreign policy adviser, trump s first campaign manager and now trump s first congressional endorser and member of his transition team. hey, i m no special counsel, but it kind of feels like there s a pattern here and maybe, maybe one of these witch-hunts where you just walk out of your front door and all the witches are just landing in your front lawn. right there in the yard. good morning and welcome to morning joe. i don t know. it seems like a pattern on this thursday, august 9th. we ve got joe, willie and me and along with us politics editor for the daily beast sam stein, political writer nick comfosori, john that here mere of the associated press and author zaneb salbi, former justice department spokes maman and now msnbc analyst matthew miller and now kasie hunt. okay. in the news this morning in an interview last night, president trump s lawyer said special counsel robert mueller will personally have a lot to answer for hours after he rejected mueller s latest effort to get a sit down interview with the president. they had they had made a court offer. trump s attorneys publicly voiced their desire for the probe to end within the next few weeks and suggested mueller would be violating doc policies if it does not end. we don t have an internal deadline. we are more special dishusly. you ve said and i said we want to see this come to chose your soon here. yeah. i also think and hope the special counsel is as sensitive as to it as we are, we don t want to run into the november elections. this should be over by september 1st. if it isn t over by september, we have a very, very serious violation of the justice department rules. but what giuliani claims would be a serious violation is, in fact, a distortion. as the justice department inspecer general recently wrote that the 60-day rule is not written or described in any department policy or regulation. adding, it is generalized, unwritten guidance that prosecutors did not indict political candidates or use overt investigative methods in the weeks before an election, not that they terminate investigations. and mika, it s important to remember that rudy giuliani, back in the 1990s, was i mean, he was whole hog into the investigation of bill clinton. and it was perfectly fine that ken starr conducted an investigation that went on years and years through one election after another after another after another. robert mueller is not going to indict anybody right before an election and that will be consistent with guidelines. but you have if you were in pursuit of a couple of dozen russians who you have evidence have violated american democracy, tried to undermine american democracy, you don t end that investigation. because rudy giuliani tells us to end that investigation. in fact, if you need guidance from rudy giuliani, just go back and on just about every topic see what he said back when republicans were indicting or trying to indict bill clinton. giuliani went on to challenge the special counsel s motive for seeking an interview. and suggested mueller will soon be the one under scrutiny. we offered him an opportunity to do a form of questioning. he can say yes or no. we can do it. if he doesn t want to do it, he knows the answers to every question that he wants to ask. he s going to ask him, did you tell comey to go easy on flynn? no. why do you want to get him under oath? because you want to trap him into originalry. t perjury. he has all the answers. they re not going to change. the president is not going to change his testimony. so stop the nonsense. you are trying to trap him into perjury because you don t have a case. i ve never been involved in an investigation on either side. that s more illegitimate than this one that is so obviously more illegitimate and i wonder where is the sense of justice on the part of mueller, on the part of the justice department. the real story is not that this case is going to fizzle. it s that it s going to blow up on them. there s a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet. and mueller is going to have a lot to answer for. you know, with rudy giuliani going around and his eyes bulging and he s looking disoriented, you look for excuses for america s mayor. for being this wildly off base. again, we just showed off the top of the show all of the members of the trump administration and the trump campaign that have already been indicted and are also that have already pled guilty, that have already pled guilty. i mean, you, on top of that, have 25 russians. this is an active investigation. now, rudy giuliani says they have nothing. they already have trump s second campaign manager, trump s i mean, indicted. trump s national security adviser indicted. and trump s first congressional endorser now indicted. the man who put his name into nomination for republican nominee, now indicted. and 25 russians where the united states military and the united states intel agencies have said, this is the forensic evidence of vladimir putin, the gru, ex kgb agents trying to undermine american democracy. how does giuliani even i mean, how does he even have the nerve to even go on there and say what he just said? that s a lot of indictments and plea bargains for an illegitimate investigation. may 10th, the vice president of the united states says i think it s time to wrap it up. rowdy giuliani has said time and time again, put up or shut up. and he repeated as he did last night that bob mueller doesn t have anything. the president s team is now saying that they want it to hurry up and quickly end. i m always amaze at what the mayor s team will will say on the record. what he said in that interview is that the president s story, if put into testimony, is a lie. because it would put him into perjury. people think i m joking about it. i m not if i was president of the united states and all of my lawyers thought i was too stupid or too much of a liar to sit down and talk to robert mueller, i d fire them. but this is all we have heard consistently from donald trump s lawyers. that mueller will twist his head into circles that he s such a liar. there would be a problem if the editor of the new york times called me up and said we can t let nick go on today. my response would be, well, then don t lie. have him tell the truth. every time giuliani and his lawyers say he s just too stupid or he s not smart enough, they come on and say, you know what? we can t let him on there because he ll perger himself. a sit down with a special counsel is no joke and even an innocent person would go into that with some fear and trepidation. if he can learn to tell the truth for two hours, he can get through it without being in perjury. this isn t a clear obstruction of justice. you have a lot of construction here. we need to call it out. he sets these arbitrary deadlines and he keeps moving the goal posts trying to outrage republicans or others. it s been effective. the polling on mueller s probe has dropped in recent months. they re the ones who are dragging this on. that s part of this argument here is they re saying this is too long, it s a waste of time, it s a distraction, it s slowing on the president s agenda. mueller may push pause here. he doesn t have to wrap it up before september 1st. this could be something that resumes in november or december and, of course, we saw from james comey, he doesn t have to push pause, either. this is no hard and fast statute on the books that says he can t do this in election season. still ahead, there s donald trump and donald trump jr., michael anyone and michael flynn jr. congressman chris collins and his son, cameron. there s a new legal affair under streetmy at this time. we ll talk about it straight ahead on morning joe. but first, here is bill carin wes a check on the forecast. we have 60 large tun tamed fires now in california. still burning in the mendocino complex and the carr fire is about to head into the top ten, too. it s endless. we re not getting the wet weather or the cooler temperatures. and the temperatures themselves today are soaring. it s going to be 106 in the interior sections of washington state. so today s forecast in areas of the southeast, you ll get some thunderstorms to deal with. we re getting a break in areas of new england after the overnight storms. not too bad in the middle of the country. stray storm around chicago. but look at how hot. boise, 106 today and tomorrow will be even hotter. the possibility of getting up there, about 108 all-time temperatures in boise, 111. so not that far away. and no moisture coming this weekend as we head towards the west. saturday, watch out. another soaking rain coming from the mid-atlantic states. that should linger over the top of us on sunday. the weekend forecast has quickly gotten worse for areas around philly, new york city and southern new england for saturday and sunday. unfortunately i m all full of bad news today. new york city, enjoy today is the bottom line. sunny and highs in the upper 80s. you re watching morning joe. we ll be right back. this is your wake-up call. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. humira can help stop the clock. prescribed for 15 years, humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contributes to joint pain and irreversible damage. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you ve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you ve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. help stop the clock on further irreversible joint damage. talk to your rheumatologist. right here. right now. humira. it s a revolution in sleep. the new sleep number 360 smart bed, from $999. intelligently senses your movement and automatically adjusts on each side to keep you both comfortable. and snoring? 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we need to get to the bottom of what s happening in this administration and stop it and investigate it and shine some sunlight. so that becomes a political vulnerability for all of them. i think want one of the interesting subplots of this chris collins thing is that he is now the second person to literally have committed a crime on the white house grounds. he made that call while he was standing on the white house grounds. it s the same place where mike flynn, in his white house office, sat down with the fbi and lied to the fbi. you could make a case that the white house compound now has the highest crime rate of any neighborhood in washington. coming up on morning joe, do as i say, not as i do. that s how you might interpret a heated moment yesterday between the judge and prosecution during paul manafort s criminal trial. matt miller explains that, straight ahead. morning joe is coming right back. but one blows them all out of the water. hydro boost from neutrogena®. with hyaluronic acid to plump skin cells so it bounces back. neutrogena® so it bounces back. the first person to survive alzis out there.ase and the alzheimer s association is going to make it happen by funding scientific breakthroughs, advancing public policy, and providing local support to those living with the disease and their caregivers. but we won t get there without you. join the fight with the alzheimer s association. $16 million in unreported income from ukraine. wow. which manafort allegedly spent between 2010 and 2014 just a few years before he sought an unpaid role leading the president s campaign. there was a tense moment between special counsel prosecutors when the judge discovered a witness had been in the courtroom for other testimony. as the washington post described, ellis erupted saying that he typically bars all witnesses, save the case a agent from observing the proceedings. and thought he had done so in this case. u.s. attorney yuso asanye said he believed the transcript would back him up that he had allowed the case expert to remain. i don t care what the transcript said. maybe i made a mistake. don t do it again. matt miller, the judge has been butting heads with the prosecution it seems from the beginning. doesn t seem to like the prosecuting attorneys too much. what s going on there? i think a little bit of a case of black robitis. judge ellis is known to be tough on the prosecution. i think a number of times he s been out of line here. if you look at him here, it s almost like when your parents would say it doesn t matter what i said, i want you to do this, anyway. sort of admitting that even if he made a mistake, he s blaming the prosecutors on it. you ve seen him at times accusing one of the prosecutors of crying and personal terms. i think the ultimate question is what impact it s going to have on the case. if this was a much closer case, i bet the prosecution would be pretty worried, some of which would be worried if it were in front of a jury. there s such strong evidence on of paul manafort that it s not likely to tip the balance at the end of the day. i was surprised when the judge told one of the attorneys to stop crying in the courtroom. he said i m not crying. and it s just like yesterday where they said, well, wait, but you said he could. just read the transcript. i don t care what s in the transcript. not the sort of stable justice that you want overseeing an important case like this. what s the story? what s his background? let me just say something about the crying. that particular prosecutor that he said was crying used to prosecute the mob. he locked up the benado family in new york and had to be under round the clock protection because while he was investigating the benado family they tried to assassinate him. so i doubt very much he was crying in the courtroom because of tough words from the judge. this is a judge that s been on the bench for a long time. judges, look, they have lifetime terms for a reason, to make them insulated from political pressure. there are down sides that come with the good side and one of the down sides is you see judges with this air began approach in the courtroom. you hear from people that practice in that court that judge ellis is like that in a lot of cases. but he s also a judge that likes to show off a little bit from the press and i think you re seeing some of that here. coming up, is seeing believing? the russian bots trailing social media. we ll talk about it next on morning joe. if yor crohn s symptoms are holding you back, and your current treatment hasn t worked well enough, it may be time for a change. ask your doctor about entyvio, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohn s. entyvio works at the site of inflammation in the gi tract and is clinically proven to help many patients achieve both symptom relief and remission. infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after treatment. entyvio may increase risk of infection, which can be serious. pml, a rare, serious, potentially fatal brain infection caused by a virus may be possible. this condition has not been reported with entyvio. tell your doctor if you have an infection, experience frequent infections or have flu-like symptoms or sores. liver problems can occur with entyvio. if your uc or crohn s treatment isn t working for you, ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio. entyvio. relief and remission within reach. a hotel can make or break a trip. and at expedia, we don t think you should be rushed into booking one. that s why we created expedia s add-on advantage. now after booking your flight, you unlock discounts on select hotels right until the day you leave. add-on advantage. discounted hotel rates when you add on to your trip. only when you book with expedia. house, during my spring break and i was watching that on c. span which tells you what a loser i have been for a very long time. a membership is expected to continue work on a broad budget outline embracing president bill clinton s economic plan that was unveiled to congress on february 17th, as well as the $16.3 billion fiscal year 1993 supplemental spending bill. the american people proved in 1992 that they were ready to hear the truth. reducing the federal government, being reform oriented and believing in change is ultimately the answer for the united states of america. so i believe that is how you spent your spring break back in 1993? 3. those were rocking good times. .and i will say, you move it forward now to 2018, and people should have been listening to tim penny and john kasich back then. and, of course, we balanced the budget three years in a row after that, but right now, it s pretty remarkable. we ve got the largest national debt ever. under donald trump and the republican congress. we ve passed the largest spending bill in the history of america under donald trump and the republican congress. biggest pentagon budget ever in the history of the united states. we re spending more now on entitlement programs than we ever have before under this republican congress. more on domestic spending. i mean, every single category that you go through. donald trump and this republican congress, spending more and stealing more from our children and grandchildren than ever before. you know, mika, this is these people, if you just look at how they re spending our taxpayer dollars, they re not only corrupt, but they res also they re not conservative. they re not close to being conservative. they re big spending radicals and they re speeding us up towards insolvency. it s really reckless and irresponsible. you wonder who people are trying to protect and exactly why. joining us now, eugene robinson, brett stevens and deputy washington bureau chief at time magazinelty ex altman. the latest issue in time includes a piece called the real fake new crisis. bots and propaganda are part of the problem. the bigger issue is your brain. you know, brett, speaking of conservatives and republicans, you know, the one thing, we would always fight on the floor of congress on with whether it s on foreign spending, foreign aid, whether it was trade, with whether it was getting involved in bosnia, whether it was when it had to do with taxes. there were always battles. but the one thing that always united conservative and moderate republicans where we were always together was on smaller government. right. on balanced budgets. on fiscal responsibility. and this radicalism, this spending radicalism that you can see in black and white, that you can see in dollars and cents, that you can see on the national debt clock, it shows just how radical donald trump and paul ryan and mitch mcconnell s congress has come to spending us into debt. right. they re unrecognizable as the republican party that i remember and that i was proud to see my to affiliate with when rob a ronald reagan was president. not so subtle white identity politics and blow out deficits and blow out spending. so what s the point? it s the reason why people should be cheering the idea that democrats should take over at least one house of congress, not just for the political hygiene that would represent. but if you re going to have big spenders, let s have big spenders who believe in those purposes of government rather than essentially a hypocritical party mouthing pieties in precisely the opposite way, joe. and you have great advice for democrats who are running for office. you re saying forget collusion. just talk about the corruption. this is the most corrupt administration in our lifetime. if you look just judge them on their first 18 months. one of the biggest problems for democratic candidates would be narrowing down all of the corruption and figuring out what to zam into a 30-second ad because there s so much corruption in there and donald trump, paul ryan, and mitch mcconnell s washington. corruption and then the questions of honor and integrity in the white house, the ones that, by the way, george w. bush successfully ran with in 2000 against a much less a much less tainted white house in bill clinton. i m not saying forget collusion because i don t think it s potentially important or revelatory. what i m talking about is strategy. if robert mueller comes up with the goods, if we discover it s as bad as many of us expect, then the chips will fall where they may. but i sometimes fear that democrats will spend all of their time talking, taking a gamble in effect that the russia story is going to pay political dividends for them. it may or may not. what really they ought to be focussing on is the fact that you have a president who lies several hundred times a day, give or take an administration in which there s one scandal after another, most recently with wilbur ross with, tom price, scott pruitt, you know, that ought to be front and center in on every democratic campaign mat form. gene robin sorn. yeah. brett mentioned the lying. and we write about that all the time. but i don t think we actually pay enough attention to it. think about it. we have a president of the united states who lies at a clip of at the moment 16 or 17 times a day. he tells the american people things that patently are false, that are self-serving and false. we never had that before. we had presidents who, you know, lied here or there and who spun things this way or that way. we ve never had that. it s just an extraordinary situation. and brett is absolutely right. this is certainly the most corruption administration that i can recall and that s with no sort of, you know, not carrying any water for with, you know, nixon and, yes, there were some ethical challenges with the clinton administration and every administration. actually, except the obama administration, there s usually somebody indicted. but this is just incredible and extraordinary. i don t think democrats are going to miss that. at least i hope they don t. it s really hard to wrap our head around everything that s going on at this point. alex, let s go to the piece in time, the real fake news crisis. what is it? well, there s a dimension that academics and researchers have been noticing that goes beyond politicians spreading misinformation or bots and controls or bad foreign actors. and that s the fact that we, the readers, are extremely susceptible to false claims spread around the internet. all day long, we use cognitive shortcut toes make decisions to help get us through our day. and those tend to break down when we re confronted with an avalanche of information. so we do things like move too fast, we click on headlines we haven t read. we share links that we ve only seen other people s synopsis on. we rely on other people s credibilities. what academics and psychologists say if we want to stop the proliferation of bad information, we need to slow down and engage our critical thinking faculties because we are a big part of the problem. alex, what s the reality of that happening? the world is not getting slower, it s going faster every minute of every day. so how do you stop something that is so pervasive and so becoming built into our brains, which is to say i ve seen something before, i believe it to be true or not to take na extra step of confirming what i read or having to take everything online with a grain of salt? you make an excellent point. that s why a lot of the folks say it s really a public health crisis. in some effects, what we need you to do is rewire the way that we interact with when we re confronted on the landscape of the internet and all of these tore ends of information. we need to slow down. we need to read more carefully. we need to question the claims that we re seeing, whether they re by politicians who we may agree with, politicians who we don t. even studies that may seem to be tip top officials. so, you know, it s really on us. you know, i think that the the russian effort sort of to sew discord and spread false information government officials say is not going to stop, including with the president, has a predelection for spreading this, this notion that fake news is pervasive. in order to avoid amplifying some of those claims, we have to do our own part. and i wonder, brett stevens, how much this really is new to american politics. and how much of it has just been part of our core for a very long time. you go back to the election of 1800, people talk about that being the nastiest race in american history. 1964, the famous book by richard hofstetter, and think about that fact. this is a politico headline from april 22nd, 2011. more than half of democrats believe that george w. bush knew about the 9/11 attacks and that was a story talking about how more than half of republicans believed that barack obama was born in kenya. and so the question is, you know with, is this just who we have been? the difference is we have reckless public figures that are feeding into this paranoia. well, whether he said it or not, the line attributed to p.t.barnum for a long time, there s a sucker born every minute. i think two things are new here. one is the level of civic education has been declining. civics aren t being taught as they should in school so people believe all kinds of things about how government operates. how does a phrase like deep state gain as much currency as it has today, except through a kind of 30 or 40 years of miseducation of the american people? and then that has been weaponized, if you will, by the tools of social media in which the dissemination of false or truthy news happens at a speed that is simply unbelievable. look, the other issue here is simply this. as the facebooks of the world have proliferated, as more people get their news from social media, the function of editors has diminished. and so, you know, what do editors do? we are a line of defense against, you know, a second pair of eyes saying, hey, that doesn t sound right to me. there s something the matter with that. and now the number of news organizations in which those editors play that core function is getting, unfortunately, smaller and smaller. and the reach of those news organizations that do that is less significant in terms of how people get their news. the post of the times are doing well. but exactly. but i mean, we used to be a filter, a big filter. but that s a great point, gene, because think bit. you have the daily news in new york which is always provided an extraordinarily important function of keeping local and state officials honest. mean, b newsroom was wiped out. and you have facebook, which is having trouble figuring out whether alex jones conspiracy theories, same with twitter, about whether that s worth publishing or not. facebook itself, 50% of americans getting their news from facebook. i mean, therein lie also the problem right there. yes, that s part of the problem. we could do a whole show on the crisis in local and state level news. and as brett said, the new york times and washington post are doing fine. national, international reach and everything. but, you know, papers that cover cities and state government are suffering. and, you know, there s malfeasance going on that s not being reported. ask yourself, how did the seth rich story not kill sean hannity s career. and that s i think that s some instructive the reason here is in this times story, right, the enemy really is us. what facebook is a mirror. it s the most effective mirror and concentrator of what we already care about and are passionate about. if you look at russian propaganda on facebook, it is mostly real material taken from actual real facebook faces. what they ve done is held up the mirror to our own worse anger. what we have here is a hard problem to solve because it s really it s rooted in what we as americans want and are passionate about. alex altman, thank you so much. last hour, we spoke with rashida talib, poised to become the first muslim woman elected to congress after her victory on tuesday in michigan. 2018 is set to become a record year for a variety of diverse groups with a record number of women. 185 so far having been nominated to run for the house alone. this november. and women are now the major party nominees for governor in 11 states. as many as 90 muslim-american candidates have ran for statewide or national office this year, the most since september 11th, 2001. and there are a record number of native americans and a record number of women among that group as well running for office in the midterms. our next guest is helping to usher in a rainbow wave with a record number of lgbtq candidates. more than 400 running for office this year. former democratic mayor of houston, aanese parker, joins u now. thank you very much for being on this morning. tell us why you are running at this point. what s your biggest message? all of our candidates are running because they care about their constituents and they re focused on local issues. but they re also very aware that the lgbt community is facing a backlash across the country, particularly in state legislators, where anti-transbills, so-called bathroom bill, are popping up. where so-called religious freedom bills are targeting the lgbt community and they are motivated just as the other communities you mentioned, wanting to serve, but concerned about the direction of our country. and talk about this rainbow wave that you re looking at and you re running. we got 400 lgbt candidates running for office this year across the board. what is this inspired by? and is it trump based? it s partially trump based but it s not just that. it is a concern about the direction of the country all across america. while there is a very real fear that the trump administration will roll back a lot of the progress we ve made in the lgbt community, the worst of the bills that are targeting us are coming in the statehouses across america, and we have an unprecedented number, as you ve said, more than 400 out lgbt candidates running. there are only 559 currently sitting lgbt elected officials. we have a map called the alpha america map. anyone can access it and look it up. 559 currently serving. this is a surge of candidates. many of them reflect that broader wave of women, of candidates of color, of transcandidates. we have a handful of republican candidates, a very tiny handful of republican candidates. these are people who are values-driven leaders who want to serve their community who happen to be lgbtq. they may be running an anti-trump message but that s not the basis of their campaign. that s a tactic that may work in some districts. mayor, it s good to see you this morning. i ve thinking about danica rome who won a seat in virginia. a transwoman. the emphasis of her campaign was to clear up congestion and get rid of the traffic on route 28 and she hammered that local message home until she was elected. some people even criticized her for not emphasizing more of the fact that she was a transwoman. so how do you recommend to candidates wanting to work that balance between their identity, how important is that, versus the themes and issues that are important to voters in their districts? all politics is local. danica execute perdly on the playbook. and that is to be open and authentic, to allow voters to know who you are. and what she cared abouts what serving her constituents and that particular issue was the top issue for her constituents. that s what we ask our candidates to run on across america and that s what they re doing. they re running for the same reasons anyone else runs. they want to serve. and you have to match your district. you have to understand your district. anise parker, thank you so much for talking about the surge of these candidates running for office, stepping up. we appreciate it. you know, mika, we do so much throughout the day, three hours, it s hard to really consolidate the most important few minutes of every day. you know? well, i know, because there s so much going on. too much. before we wrap up today, joe, let s take a quick look back at the day s most important conversation. who s your uncool band, and it can t be like black flag. i ll stick with dave matthews. dave matthews is cool. you have to go with monkeys or the carpenters. is this along the lines of creed? sam likes kiss. sam stein, he told me before the show, he still has a poster of hanson up. i said the carpenters. they rock anyone like pink floyd? yes, we all like pink floyd. and the dead? operation social distortion. hall and oats? mick said the wiggles. straight up def leppard guy. i like andy gibb and the bee gees. i did not, for some reason, like steely dan when i was in high school and college. i like them now. are the goo goo dolls uncool? i was more of a punk rock guy than goo goo dolls. huey lewis has to be top of the list. abba has made an appearance, partridge family. maybe i m not cool. i didn t know huey lewis wasn t cool. i used to be with it but then they changed what it was. now what i m with isn t it and what s it seems weird and scary to me. it will happen to you. oh, my gosh. oh, my gosh. joe. really took things off the tracks. ten years ago, rolling stone put out a list of the top 25 guilty pleasure bands. ready for the top five? number five is chicago. number four is abba. number three is journey. number two is elo. and the number one guilty pleasure band according to rolling stone magazine, rush, number one on the list. oh. rush. pretty good choice. don t stop believing. what happened to van halen? are they a guilty pleasure or just a pleasure? just a pleasure, turns out. straight-up pleasure. no one says duran duran, right, because that s too guilty? no, no. we never admit that publicly. joe, you cannot forget the reason kasie d.c. exists and that would be ac/dc. how about enya? i kind of like enya. way too cool for this discussion. mika, you mentioned bee gees. now, i hope you re referring to disco-era bee gees because that s a guilty pleasure of mine. andy gibb had an album the c-span soundtrack. i do like that. i do love that. and that soothing voice, mika, that soothing voice. well, shadow dancing. there s nothing better. well, actually yes, there is a hell of a lot better. we don t have time to go through that. by the way, i didn t know that rolling stone i didn t know that elo was a guilty pleasure. another great band. chicago. the eagles. let s just end it.
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A recap of the day s headlines and a look at what s in store for tomorrow. today there are no allegations that a key justice department official continued to communicate and trade information with dossier author christopher steele long after the fbi had cut steele loose for linking to the media. also breaking: the possibility that house judiciary chairman bob goodlatte is preparing to subpoena bruce ohr, christopher steele, and a number of other current and former fbi and doj officials. congressman trey gowdy, chairman of the house oversight committee investigating these issues joins us. welcome. thank you. shannon: i want to talk to some of the new text. these are being reported between doj official bruce ohr and christopher steele. steele asked ohr if he could continue to help feed information to the fbi just want to check if are okay. still unable to help locally? 2016. i am still here and able to help as discussed. ohr texted i will let you know if that changes. steele replied if you end up out, i knew no contact point. we can t allow our guy to be forced to go back home. it would be disastrous. mr. chairman, are these texts new to you? can you elucidate? they are not new to me. i am also on the house intelligence committee. i may have been the first member of congress who read these messages, and that would ve been in the fall of 2017. they were troubling then. they are troubling now, which is why chairman goodlatte and i so much want to talk to bruce ohr. i think house intel wants to talk to bruce ohr but that investigation got wound down and transferred to chairman goodlatte and myself. think about chris steele, who has been dismissed from the fbi because he cannot follow their rules and regulations and is communicating with someone in the department of justice who is not involved in this investigation. he is a narcotics prosecutor. of course we want to talk to bruce ohr, and we also want to talk to nelly or, who by the way was working for fusion gps which is the firm that hired christopher steele to dig up dirt on donald trump. shannon: my understanding is the list of names i m seeing tonight are bruce ohr, nelly or, fusion gps, founder glenn simpson, other fbi doj officials current and former. will they be subpoenaed? why do you hope to hear from them? there are two categories. those who work for government now, we shouldn t have to subpoena them. we should do about that i did weeks ago which is on the list of the department of justice. these are your employees that we want to talk to. so far, that has fallen on deaf ears. chairman goodlatte is a very patient man, but we have around out of patience. i talked to them yesterday at length. they either need to set this for a date or there will be a subpoena issued. the speaker will back it up. goodlatte will back it up. the house will back it up. there s no reason to not make them available for a deposition or transcribed interview. shannon: folks would like to know about what it means. are you still able to help us when steele is talking to ohr. i want to get the other questions involving the mueller investigation. there is agreeing to conditions for the president to sit down. everyone in the legal world is tell him not to. terry lipman, well-known constitutional lawyer said enough is enough. it s time to subpoena the president. mueller has been asked ordinarily differential and patient while trump and his ribs and is engaged in their scarcely credible gamesmanship. it s become increasingly apparent that neither trump nor anyone in his orbit has any interest in answering mueller s questions. in a word, they are playing mueller and in the process playing the country. first, do you think they will subpoena the president and if you get to the supreme court, how does it go? if they subpoena the president, there will be a motion to quash, and our grandkids may be having this conversation. it will take a while to litigate it. the reason i m smiling is i was on the committee that sent some questions in writing to president obama. they were really important questions to the family members of for people who were killed. i am not even sure he even open the envelope. where this newfound outrages that presidents won t answer legitimate inquiries from that branch or another branch, i m on record as saying president trump can get much better legal counsel than what i can provide him. it s been a while since i ve had my miranda warnings read to me but i m fairly familiar with them and i think you can stop answering questions whenever you want to. but i would tell the president, sit down and answer the questions about what if anything you know about what russia did in 2016. and then answer the questions about who if anyone did it with them. that s the core jurisdiction of bob mueller. answer those and then don t answer anymore. you don t have to answer a question simply because it s fast. i think the optics of not answering the collusion and conspiracy coordination questions aren t great. if he s open to free legal advice, which is usually worth what you pay for, but i will try to anyway. answer the questions related to the two core pillars of, wanted russia do? do you know anything about it? with whom if anyone did they do it? i think the president has had reviews he knew nothing about it in fact people call me if anyone on my team did it come i want to find out. tells me he didn t know anything about it. answer the question then don t answer the rest. shannon: i won t ask you to answer when you were last moran ties to. we will get to that. we will talk about that another time. in the meantime, thank you very much. we will dig into it separately. great to have with us tonight. yes, ma am. thank you. shannon: new to veltman s and the ohio state wrestling allegations against aspiring house speaker congressman jim jordan. we are also monitoring some breaking news from the nfl preseason football games. trace gallagher covering both cases. good evening. the wrestling, former wrestler and wrestling coach at ohio state who coached with and is a longtime friend of jim jordan. coleman s comments about what congressman jordan did or didn t know about the ohio state sex abuse case carry a great deal of weight, and now mark coleman says and i m quoting at no time did i ever say or have any direct knowledge that jim jordan knew of dr. richard strauss inappropriate behavior. i ve nothing but respect for jim jordan. i ve known him for more than 30 years and know him to be of impeccable character. in july, coleman was courted by the wall street journal saying snow away unless he s got dementia or something that he d gotten the recollection of what was going on ohio state. i ve nothing but respect for this man. i love this man, but he knew, as far as i m concerned. other former wrestlers of oslo peace jordan of knowing about the abuse but not reporting it, including mike, leading the charge against jordan. now mark coleman is at odds with mike, quoting i am distancing myself from mike as he is not my manager and does not speak for me. dr. strauss is accused of sexually abusing student athletes and 14 sports at ohio state. over 21 years. strauss himself killed himself in 2005. there has been no comment tonight from congressman jim jordan. shannon: also tonight, interrelated sports story, sounds like players are still protesting the national anthem. as we kick off the nfl preseason. it open tonight with 12 games. the league and players union remains deadlocked on a national anthem policy. in spring, the nfl said players who kneel or sit during the anthem would be fine but when the union involved is that, the nfl suspended the rule. for now it s kind of a gray area. a number of players are still protesting. in fact, the miami herald says that dolphin receivers took a need for the anthem prior to their game against tampa bay. the dolphins defense of end, he raised a fist like he did last season. before the steelers-eagles game, the eagles players reportedly raised their fists during the anthem. defense of end michael bennet walked onto the field after the anthem started. shannon: all right, trace gallagher. thank you very much. the controversies turning kneeling for the national anthem is once again front and center. let s talk about with former ohio seminar to bitter fox news contributor guy benson. capri, what do make of it? so much back and forth about owners, the lien, players. in the absence of any explicit direction from the nfl which is on hold. basically we are back to square one and players are going to do with the players want to do. i think the signals that the concerns from the players continue, and i think probably some of this is fueled by the one-year anniversary of some of the charlottesville protest that occurred a year ago. i would really urge the nfl, obviously i respect people s first amendment rights but the national football league is the employer here. they need to work with the union to come up with a solution so there is consistency and so americans can continue to enjoy football this season. shannon: guy, are you enjoying football? i am a college football guy. we are kicking off a couple thursdays from now. go, cats. the last thing the nfl wants collectively is yet another season where we are sitting here debating kneeling during the anthem. it annoys or offends many, many fans. whether you agree with it or not, it s disrespectful in the eyes of the vast majority of football fans, according to all the polling that s been done on this. for this league to be roiled yet again in a battle over patriotism and free speech, i guarantee you the league office is not thrilled. yet they have not handled this are many other things particularly well. so here we are talking about it again. shannon: i am counting down to the monday night kickoff, florida state. we will enjoy it. let s hope it s not another rebuilding year. stock about the allegations against the man he says he wants to be house speaker at the g.o.p. retains control. jim jordan. allegations that he knew when he was in ohio state wrestling coach that the doctor there was standing accused of all kinds of impropriety. tonight when the primary accusers against jim jordan saying he knew about it has recanted, saying i have been misconstrued. i ve complete respect for him. i never said he knew about this. quickly, get you to weigh in. is someone from ohio who authored the rate kit backlog law, someone who is a licensed social worker and worked on a number of different bills including extending the statute. victims are being politicized. this individual is not recanting something happened in regards to abuse. there is no suggestion of that. but it raises some red flags to make. the columbus dispatch reported today that apparently the statement from this wrestler was issued by a firm that was retained by jim jordan s campaign. that is problematic. shannon: he is not saying the abuse didn t happen. but he saying he is no longer saying that jim jordan knew about it. i have always said impertinence of this cades it s important to follow the facts, take the allegations very seriously but when one of the crucial players who had been pointing the finger at jim jordan now is taking a step back and saying to be clear, i respect him. he is a man of integrity, and i have no direct knowledge that he was aware of the abuse. that also is a piece of evidence that we outweigh seriously. shannon: thank you both very much. more news right after this brea break. is complete! instant purchase notifications from capital one . technology this helpful. could make history. what s in your wallet? you wouldn t accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills don t. and all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. flonase sensimist. experience the 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send money to my country to feed my son. she and many others were in a catholic kitchen. they say they just want to work. the collapsing economy in venezuela is robbing them of that opportunity. volunteers there say they serve 2500 venezuelans at that location alone. there are many more throughout the city. u.n. ambassador nikki haley spoke with refugees there. we were the only tv crew with her. the volunteers asked ambassador if they could have a military style kitchen because they said the demand is that much for food and to serve venezuelans. haley said that situation, that scene is all the responsibility of venezuelan president nicolas maduro, and she says it s time for him to go. i think there s more to do. so what we are trying to do here is raise the voices from people who can t. if the venezuelans protest when they get killed. we can do this. we can raise their voices. we need people to hear. we need countries to hear. many venezuelans told us it s getting worse in venezuela. the economic situation, but also the oppression from the government, especially after the attempt on nicolas maduro s life this past weekend. shannon. shannon: rich edson in colombia with the u.n. ambassador. thank you. top democratic senator slamming america today, blaming the u.s. for the results of a saudi led air strike in yemen. senator chris murphy of connecticut reading u.s. bombs, u.s. targeting, u.s. midair support and we just bombed a school bus. the bombing campaign is getting more reckless, killing more civilians and strengthening terrorists inside yemen. tonight, senator lindsey graham response. the real culprit in yemen is the iranian regime and their proxies. saudi arabia will not tolerate proxies. i deeply regret the loss of civilian lives. it s in our national security interests to stand with our arab allies and against iran when it comes to yemen. the unrest in yemen has been going on for three years. more than 10,000 dead and much of the country s infrastructure in shambles. what now and who should get the blame? let s speak with daniel hoffman. no easy answers. it s a humanitarian catastrophe. what we do know is the iranians are supporting their houthi proxies. in 2017 when the houthi rebels launched a missile, it brought the level of. they are relying on a bombing campaign. for the iranians and the houthi rebels, they want to blur the distinction. they want to induce their opponents, the saudis, to kill civilians. we see that too often. shannon: senator bernie sanders tweeting by backing the saudi coalitions were in yemen, weapons, aerial refueling, the united states is complicit in this atrocity. no one can seriously claim that our support for this war is actually making us safer. of course the stretches back before the said administration. this has been going on for years. this goes back to the arab spring. that s when the violence and the unrest really began. the previous president in yemen couldn t hold it together. he had to deal with southern secessionists, houthis, al qaeda. it is a petri dish growing major threats to our country. i prefer our elected representative s point the blame at al qaeda, the islamic state, and iran before they point the finger at us. our intelligence is of value to ensure that we take the best possible shot against and amica events. without our intelligence, the saudis wouldn t be as effective distinguishing between targets. shannon: you have to look back to the genesis of these things. i want to talk to you about a story out of florida. a senator is talking about the threats to election systems from the russians. he says this is no fooling time and that s my two senators, bipartisan, reached out to the election apparatus of florida to let them know that the russians are in your records and all you have to do with those election records are not productive is go in and start eliminating registered voters. he thinks people could show up and realize they are not voting. florida department of state says they receive zero information from senator nelson that supports the claims. county officials said the same thing. we have no idea what he s talking about. folks arguing we should downsize the government. maybe they have a point. we have to get this right. it s it s incomprehensible to m. why the senator didn t clear it with stakeholders. doesn t make a lot of sense. if this is true in the russians might be interfering with voter rolls, doesn t matter whether they are successful. at the end of the day, if vladimir putin can insinuate that he had something to do with changing voter rolls, then he will arguably succeed in degrading our trust in our democratic system. florida was the sad fact in the gore-bush campaign of some serious voter recount. that would be a logical place for the russians to choose. shannon: i was a reporter there. i remember it. it was an interesting time. russia primarily wants to sow chaos and make everyone? our democracy. that s where we need to work 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state s top election official. earlier today, kobach told fox news he would step aside if it s primary challenger asked but brushed it off suggesting it was unnecessary and then their move would be fs involved. his opponent, governor collier, rick requested a recusal. i will give you a heads up. i would be happy to recuse myself but it really doesn t make any difference. my office doesn t count the votes. the counties do. at least two kansas counties have reported discrepancies between their tallies the numbers on the secretary of state website. election officials said there were 522 votes for governor collier. the secretary of state website said he has 422. according to the washington post, the county clerk s office has the secretary of state s website did not accurately reflect their counting numbers either. they say there were 257 votes for kobach and 220 watts for collier. instead of 110 for kobach and a hundred and three for collier. lots of numbers but the big point is adolescence kobach s lead and means he s only ahead by about 120 votes. this is the letter that the governor sent kobach asking the secretary of state to stop advising county election officials. he writes it s come to my attention that your offices giving advice to county election officials as recently as a conference call yesterday, and you are making public statements on national television which are inconsistent with kansas law and may serve to suppress the vote in the ongoing kansas primary election process. kobach is a controversial republican particularly when it comes to his visions regarding immigration voting rights. this is a local race with national implications. kobach says it s a fight against establishment republicans. president trump endorsed kobach, not the incumbent republican governor and that means many people are looking at this as an indication of the president s power in state elections. shannon: the white house watching closely. thank you. new developments on the plan for what could be a huge and expensive expansion of the pentagon s powerless possibility. kristin fisher joins us. we are talking about a major reorganization of the u.s. military. the trump administration wants to create an entirely new branch for the first time since the air force was established in 1947. back then, dominance in the air during world war ii. now the president said space is how the battles of the future will be won and lost. it s time to write the next great chapter in the history of our armed forces. vice president mike pence stood before top military brass today and told them president trump wants a space force up and running into years. the space environment has fundamentally changed in the last generation. what was once peaceful and uncontested is now crowded and adversarial. he blames china and russia for developing and testing weapons that could destroy american satellites which the u.s. military and economy depend on for communicating, navigating, and intelligence. our adversaries have been busy weaponizing space. too often, we have bureaucracy i state. opponents like deborah lee jane s argue the president s proposal would only add to red tape. the creation of a brand-new separate service, brand-new bureaucracy, would create such thrashing that we could create loose some positive momentum. it s a point defense secretary jim mattis supported just last year, but he s come around, and now supports the president s plan to create space operations force. a new unified combat and comman command, agency for accusations, and a new political appointee. assistant secretary of defense for space. we are in alignment with the president s concerns about protecting assets. and ohio, president trump hinted at more aggressive actions in orbit. i m talking about tremendous defense capability. offensive capability. the move to military space has raised concerns of a celestial arms race. experts agree space force are not, the u.s. confronts threats. russia and china have been actively developing antisatellite weapons for a number of years. the trump administration: congress to allocate $8 billion over the next five years. ultimately congress must act. the question is will congress fund it? the trump campaign is trying too make money off today s announcement. it sent an email to supporters asking them to vote on the space force logo. they can buy the design on gear sold on the website. it s become popular among the president s supporters. they see it as making america great again. this time in space. shannon: kristin fisher, thank you very much. disturbing new details about the new mexico compound that housed children allegedly being trained to shoot up schools. joining us live, former federal prosecutor andrew mccarthy with new insights about the man arrested in the compound and links to a case mccarthy prosecuted years ago. how they could save 15% or more by. 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what i find disturbing is the you have this ideology. i feel like i ve been hitting my head against the same offer 25 years because we have this ideology that we have actually exposed a great deal in court which actually preaches this idea of growing these parallel societies, training people up to use force, and ultimately using force against the host society. lo and behold, it looks like what we have out in new mexico is a parallel society in training and being built, and what s very disturbing is not only the abuse of these children we mentioned earlier, they found the remains of one child there who is believed to be the son, the grandson of the elder siraj s wahhaj, the son of siraj wahhaj who ran the compound rate hasn t been a hundred percent confirmed but pretty clear. action should have been taken a lot sooner than it was. we are kind of working at this with kid gloves for fear of giving offense when i think we really ought to be taking this ideology into account we conduct these investigations. shannon: we will learn much more. andy mccarthy, thank you very much. stick around for our midnight hero. who doesn t love a deal? 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