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Theirs is like the coordinated effort to keep this story going. but you know the i.g.'s report will be scathing. jim talked about july 31 when the investigation opened up. it was obama's fbi that was coordinating with foreign governments at that time to investigate donald trump. and so when we see this -- there is two stories falling apart. one is the media story, the mainstream media story says the president was asking for favors to investigate joe biden. that wasn't true. when he was asking for promises, that didn't happen. when he said he mentioned joe biden 8 times that didn't happen. that...

Determined that the whistleblower does have a political bias. you know, again, let him go forward and make accusations. but a lot of these accusations have turned out to not be true. >> every time i have asked you if you're concerned about the actions the president took, you have avoided answering the specific question and instead focused on something else. >> don't try to infer anything. >> you seem to be uncomfortable defending -- let me put it this way. you seem uncomfortable defending the president's actions. >> don't put words in my mouth. >> i'll let you finish. >> you made a lot of stat...

It and even if i did do it, who cares, it's within my purview. that is clearly giuliani's position. i think that if that is true, that that is giuliani's stance and therefore his client's stance, then it would behoove the administration to release the inspector general to talk and make public what they were talking about. if this is really not a big deal, then make it public. and i know we've talked about this a lot. there's a big debate about how to describe when the president says things that aren't true or his aides says things that aren't true. they repeatedly demand benefit of the doubt a...

>> chris, remember, north carolina, that's going to be a big battleground state in 2020. i know this is just one district. never mind to try to extrapolate fully for president trump, he needs north carolina. if we're starting to see some erosion tonight, that's going to be a big problem just in the map to 270. >> especially on the same day they're trying to convince themselves that the two separate polls that came out aren't true, you get a result that goes against you, it's a problem. let me take a quick break. stay with me. harry with spell out for us the wizard of odds about what's going on...

We're talking now about the intersection of ignorance and pride. >> right. >> it didn't begin with trump. we have a history with the know-nothing party that wrapped itself in knowing nothing. but of that now with people retweeting as if it's all a game, you know, a random citizen in florida saying things that aren't true. trump saying things that aren't true. and it's not a game, and a hurricane, if ever there were an illustration from that, from this one and from past ones. bart thompson, appreciate you coming on. >> thank you. >> we'll fit in a quick break and an important update to a story ...