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Aide to ukraine. the things they need to bog putin down and bog the russian army down in large cities with urban warfare. it's only when he and his oligarches and generals believe this can turn into another afghanistan and be bad for him domestically do i think we will slow him down. he is not going to stop with ukraine. if this is easy like in 2004 -- in 2014 with donbas and crimea he will continue. next are the baltics. >> sean: stop right there. one big difference. you get to the baltics and we are talking about a nato alliance. joe biden talked about article-5. if they attack one they atta...

Moment for sure. so u.s. troops will be an element of that 40,000-member force. and really, that force is meant to protect nato countries. so in the event of an attack on a nato country, of which ukraine is not a member of nato, that would activate the response. it's called article 5 of the nato alliance treaty, that an attack on one member is an attack on all. that could draw that force in. hopefully that does not happen, i would be surprised if it does. but nato is doing what's necessary to protect its members, that's what the charter is all about. >> colorado congressman jason crow, thank y...

That's a crime. article-5 is not a mechanical mechanism. human beings have to invoke it. is this worth risking a nuclear conflict over? that's something we should pause very deeply to think about in the most sober, possible way and we hope our leaders are. not all of them seem sober. some seem reckless and ignorant. this is the last person you want near a nuclear button. he informed us that russia's seizure of the chernobyl plant might trigger article-5. then what happens? adam hasn't thought about it.

Would be required to declare on russia. >> if russia unleashes its full cyber power against ukraine, once you put malware into the wild, it knows no boundaries. if they turn off the power in ukraine it may turn off the power in eastern poland and romania. that could effect our troops if hospitals are shut down. if american troops have a car accident because the stoplights don't work. we are suddenly in an area, article-5, where one nato country is attacked and we all have to come to their aid. >> tucker: that hypothetical could happen with a cyber attack on ukraine. it could affect the infrast...