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Give up his south boston liquor store so whitey bulger could turn it into a front for his mob gang. so with this suspicious dench of a potential witness, has that now shaken up the case, potentially scare off other potential witnesses, avery? >> wow. well, i'll tell you something. rakes really wanted to testify in this case and they find him dead this week. on top of that, the number two guy in the winterhouse gang headed up by bulger testified. that was stephen t rifl m"the r flemmi. and he talked about having to work with number one, with bulger, in strangling his girlfriend. on top of that,...

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Negligent in hiring the doctor that would take care of jackson. he died in 2009 after being propofol as a sleep aid. dr. conrad murray is serving a four-year sentence. our legal guys are back to discuss. joey jackson in new york in for richard herman this week. and avery freeman, a civil rights attorney from cleveland. good to e see you both again. avery, what does the jackson family have to establish to help prove that aeg was negligent in hiring dr. murray? >> they got to show that there was negligent hiring. what's astonishing in this case is that they came they are going to put the jackson...

Because of that trial. it's a risky move because whenever someone starting trashing the victim, people already know about that trial. when you start trashing the victim himself and talking about the character of someone who is dead, it could backfire and have the effect that's unintended. it's a risky move. >> but at the same time, the burden of proof is different in a civil matter. and in how will that decipher the potential outcome here? >> lost the signal. >> iowa are yovery, i don't thi have. joey, how would you answer that? it's different in a civil matter. >> first, avery come back soon....

Whenever you're issuing or dealing with something like money, the standard is less. it it has to do with a preponderance of the evidence. it has to do with the probability as opposed to a certainty. >> avery, it looks like you're back. >> he's back. >> how do you see this, i guess, journey since the civil matter is different than one that would be argued in criminal court, why would the family pursue the civil matter? >> right. i mean look, michael jackson was $400 million in debt. he's dead and he's dead because of conrad murray. they have to connect the two. i think that's a very tough burde...