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Ambassador, that was proven wrong. i think this tweet is one more example where the administration and president himself are making misstatements when it comes to the russia inquiry. >> the president's top adviser, jared kushner, is under scrutiny for attempting to set up a secret communications channel with the russians. using russian equipment at the russian embassy and you have seen all of the reports. the white house says, they call these diplomatic back channels. nothing wrong with that. that's a standard part of diplomacy. how do you see it? >> back channels are a standard part of diplom...

Whether it's an appropriate part of ploemcy. >> secretary kelly and general mcmaster have discussed in general terms back channels are appropriate part of diplomacy. >> how comfortable do you think mainstream republicans think of someone not in the white house during a transition actually having an open back channel with russia? >> that's where we have to put the emphasis on. they were not in the white house at that point in time when kushner was attempting to set up these alleged back channels. i think what it does, it feeds into that narrative that there was or possible collusion with indivi...

Is one of his top advisor es an artfully pushes it off on the two general generals, the natio security advisor and homeland securi security. two people you would think would know a little something on this. quite frankly we're going to hear this every day now about jared kushner until we come to some kind of resolution. >> this is a former cia director. here's how he sees kushner's meeting about back channels. >> in general back channels are an important part of diplomacy. this wasn't in general. this was specific. and i wouldn't even have called it a back channel. at least in the way that gov...

Accomplish should the channel be exposed, be made public. anderson, i flew into islamabad with mike mcconnell, the director of national intelligence, after benazir bhutto was killed to conifer with president musharraf. we went in there secretly. we met secretly. we left secretly. president bush wanted us to share a certain message with president musharraf. i mean, this is what governments do. that's fine. and you've got good people in the administration, secretary kelly, secretary mattis, h.r. mcmaster, defending the principle of back channels. i agree. but i don't think that's exactly what th...

Secret from the americans while the government in power, president obama's administration, was facing and making decisions of a very serious nature with regard to the russian federation. i wouldn't call this a back channel at all. >> the response has been from the administration and also from supporters that other administrations have had back channels, but you heard what michael hayden said there, mark. he doesn't see the kushner meetings as establishing a back channel at all. what do you think about what he said? >> i think he's absolutely right. especially as somebody who has been put in th...