Neighboring countries including syria and also escalating these operations. you're seeing them at a clip now with the frequency we didn't see in the aftermath after 9/11 or in the last decade and a half going after al qaeda so this is quite dangerous. >> there are hundreds, i'm told, hundreds of indonesians who have gone to syria and to iraq for that matter to work with isis, right? >> absolutely. you know, look, indonesia is one of the most pluralistic, you know, moderate muslim countries. but it has a tradition of, you know, accepting and tolerating minority groups, buddhists, hindus, you na...