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I don't think it's fair to cast him as entirely one way or entirely the other. >> michael, allow me or help me leave folks with a sentiment that the president said in his quote about dole. i will never forget what he said to our colleagues, quote, no first class democracy can treat people like second class citizens. expand on that for me in relation to the late senator. >> well, this was a very conservative republican, especially in the earlier part of his career. yet, in 1964 when there were a lot of conservatives beginning with barry goldwater who opposed the civil rights act, and all that s...

i was trying to get an experienced person down to cover it. they said why don't you go. i said okay. i went down there. as i have often said to people, in the ten years i have been writing about this i have never really found the words to describe what it was like to go down in the year 2000 and to see a country that looked like it was at war right here in the united states. of little border town in the southeastern corner of arizona. i will read a fragment from my book. .. ordinary american life continued all around them. agents of my own government were chasing down farm workers an...