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>> the media that represents the other idealogy explodes because they have so much they want to say to sort of take down the new administration. that's not happening this time. this time around the opposition media, which is sort of the far right media, is seeing some dec declines in engagement. year after year, some outlets are still doing okay meaning they're bigger now than they were last year. but they're far, far smaller than they were since president biden took office, which means they don't have a lot to grasp onto at this point. you're also seeing declines on the left. the far left med...

And what did it do to them an what they were putting on-air? >> terrified fox producers, anchors and hosts like never scared before, because as you said, chris. fox in a monopoly on right-wing tv and all that changed after january 3rd. cut into the base audience and fox lured them back by running to the right. happens step-by-step, day-by-day. hard to notice if only watching minute-by-minute. when i stepped back it's clear about getting rid of the news and adding more opinion about the news. the result, it's worked. they scared away newsmax. rebounded because they have radicalized. >> especial...

Had a monopoly on right-wing tv and all of that changed after november 3rd. newsmax and one american news cut into the base audience and fox desperately lure them back by running to the right. it happened step-by-step, day by day. it was hard to notice if you are only watching minute by minute but when i step back for hoax, it's clear that every moves foxes made in the last six months is about getting rid of the news and adding more opinion about the news. and the result is it has worked. they've scared away newsmax. they've rebounded in the ratings because they have radicalized. >> and especi...

Islamic. we don't know whether that was a slip or we just don't know whether or not he intended that for his base audience at home, those who really don't like muslims and don't feel that they contribute to our country, that's still the base that helped propel him to presidency, maybe there was a little something for everyone in the speech but what really struck me, leland, was the harsh attack on iran in the capital of the country that was responsible for sending most of the terrorists who destroyed or two buildings, twin towers and pentagon and iran had nothing to do with that. i'm not a def...

Any president. barack obama learned the same thing. i think this president has a steeper learning curve than most because he started farther back. and he started with a lot of assertions about policy that really i think didn't reflect reality, number one, and probably didn't even reflect necessarily his views. he was messaging to a base audience that he thought would resonate in many respects. now he's learning unfortunately it's created a lot of complications for him as he tries to make that transition from candidate to office holder and president of the united states. that on-the-job trainin...