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Kushner who is running this campaign strategically, he wants to run toward the native immigration as the central burning issue for his reelection campaign. he believes that base turnout is the only way he possibly wins again in 2020 along with the strong economy in his eyes and so that's where he's going to go politically again and again. you don't see the apology for the way he describing four minority women searching in the house of representatives or apology for the way his rhetoric in different ways may inflame the national debate. >> indeed, that's what we hear. that the president is goin...

Those working inside of the trump campaign, they say without a doubt it's president trump no one else like a more centrists republican or democrat like mr. kushner who is running this campaign strategically, he wants to run toward the native immigration as the central burning issue for his reelection campaign. he believes that base turnout is the only way he possibly wins again in 2020 along with the strong economy in his eyes and so that's where he's going to go politically again and again. you don't see the apology for the way he describing four minority women searching in the house of repre...

I don't know where we end up once we have a nominee. but the question is are we trying to outanger them? are we giving a positive package? are we just saying anyone is better than trump? >> plus you also have -- i leave this to the two of you, but are you going to go the way florida and georgia did on a national level to the more progressive candidate to run hoping you increase the base turnout, or are you going to try to put someone more center who can pick up states like pennsylvania and michigan -- not michigan. and wisconsin at least. >> we're going to talk about that later in the show. bu...

21% believe protections should be expanded and 16% said leave it alone. 14%, however, want to keep roe with some restrictions and s13% believe it should be overturned. >> joining us now from wachl washington, political reporter for the hill, julia manchester. >> good morning. >> geoff was reading some of these polls. mrk stands on abortion rights as we are seeing a shift there. how could this potentially impact the 2020 presidential race? we've already seen it with a shift within joe biden's campaign. where else could we see shifts on this? >> i've actually been talking to various democratic a...

Well, we can't exactly exonerate him but, you know, what are you going to do? so i think that right now when you look at the base turnout in both the republican and the democratic party, i hear a lot of skepticism that impeachment on either side is really going to at the end of the day do what people say it's going to do right now. as somebody said to me yesterday, the intensity is already so white hot, it's hot enough to melt steel. the logic in, well, the democrats won't turn out if we don't impeach, i just don't quite get that. they're so mad and they want to eject trump from office so badl...