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down $10,000 a year -- >> yes, absolutely -- >> -- under obama's economy, you can't blame bush now so no, lets an be fash, at some point, you have to own the economy. you cannot resolve the problems of the middle class with government benefits. you do it with a growing economy and good paying jobs. >> just don't think there's any sort of economic measure, alfonso, that would not demonstrate a growing economy under president obama. i agree with you it has not been felt all the way down. there's also no question it has been growing. thank you to sara, jane, eric, also alfonso and amy meredith who are sticking around. up next an update on the tropical storm patricia. the case that can lead the security to rule on abortion for the first time in nearly a decade. when a wildfire raged through elkhorn ranch, the sudden loss of pasture became a serious problem for a family business. faced with horses that needed feeding and a texas drought that sent hay prices soaring,