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Sham. Hey, man. Really . The more cnn, this or that. Ratings . Tucker before we continue. An obvious point. The tape you saw is a little creepy. Privacy is the functions of any society not to mention human happiness, itself. I appears to be disappearing in the country thanks to the digital revolution. Even cable news figures ought to have conversations on the street without worrying the private remarks are being secretly recorded as they now so often are. And from all accounts van jones is a nice guy. Everyone who knows him, says so. But that said how wonderful revealing this exchange is. The ...

More specifically, why my life ended. if you're listening to this tape, you're one of the reasons why. >> tucker: well, now the families of go teenager girls in the state of california are blaming the show for their daughters' suicide. bella hern don and priscilla, both 15, binge watch the show and hanged themselves shortly after. does the show's creator deserve credit for the death or is it lied -- ludicrous? gina is joining us. maybe the show is reprehensible, which i'm willing to believe but not responsible for actions that people who watch it take. what is your view? >> well, i think there...