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When people say now, did not, r that's that's a big warningni sign. usually you say, no, i didn' si you know, or you show some emotion. no, i did not. usually i found in thually i found in my experience, that's always a red flagatfl. ying no, so he was kind of nodding.at yoe yes. while saying no. >> is that what you're saying? that's one thing. and then very hyper articulate . so, again, you know, he's being definite and trying to make hisd point instead of saying, no, i didn't do that. you know, like he's when whenhoi we think back of how his son appeared, which was very genuine, it's complet...

My boy is laying face down and he is done the way he is done. the head was the way his head was. i could see his -- i could see his brain laying on the sidewalk. i didn't know what to do. i mean -- i tried to turn him over. grab him by the belt loop and tried to turn him over. and when i did, his phone popped out. his phone popped out. and i picked it up and put it right back there. >> do you have any idea how it popped out? >> i mean, i know it came out of his pocket when i pulled on his belt loop. when i pulled him to turn him over. and it just popped out. it popped right beside him and sat ...

Popped out? >> know it came out of his pocket when i pulled on his belt loop when i pulled him to turn him over. it just popped right beside him. it sat right beside him. >> were you able to turn paul at all? >> i mean, i did it. >> what side of paul were you when you were doing this? >> ufs on the side that was away from where my car was.

0 paul -- you could not be around him and not have a good time. >> were you close to paul? >> you couldn't be any closer. than paul paul and i and buster and i. he's wonderful, wonderful. >> one of the things you enjoyed doing together, just riding the property? >> i loved doing anything with paul paul. it was an absolute delight. but, yeah, one of the things, i mean paul's passion, paul was passionate about a lot of things, but that property was really a passion of his. he loved to do -- he loved to work it, he loved to work the fields, he loved to work the food plots, he loved to hunt. he wo...

0 popped and i undid the other tree and it was falling over and papa was laughing at me trying to get it back upright, and it was a fruit tree that i had been dealing with really for years, and it would not stand up straight. >> were you and paul having a good time at that point? >> you could not be around papa, you could not be around him and not have a good time. >> were you close to paul? >> you could not be any closer than papa and i and buster and i. he was wonderful. >> and one of the things that you enjoyed doing was just riding the property? >> i loved doing anything with papa. it was ...