then president obama had seven new cabinet level officials confirmed. trump only as of right now has two. do you think that you re going to be able to stop some of his nominees, or are you just trying to slow down the process? well, let me say this. first, this cabinet is unusually unique and a lot different than others. we call it the swamp cabinet, billionaires and bankers. the number of wealthy people, the number of people rife with conflicts of interest and the number of people who have disagreed with what trump has campaigned on is so much more than just any other cabinet we ve seen, and so that means they need thorough review. thorough review so they don t have conflicts of interest, thorough reviews so we know, for instance, is dr. price going to try to privatize or end medicare when trump campaigned against it? and and are republican colleagues, i don t blame them with this cabinet, have tried to rush it through. advise and consent does not mean very easily be confirmed who have not yet been confirm, one of them being congressman mike pompeo who has been nominated to be director of the cia. president trump visited the cia yesterday. i want you to take a listen to white house press secretary sean spicer last night. the cia didn t have a cia director to be with him today when he visited because the democrats have chosen senate democrats are stalling the nomination of mike pompeo and playing politics with national security. what s your response, sir? that s ridiculous. number one, we have never had a cia director confirmed on the first day. number two, there are very capable people watching over the cia, and, in fact, i told vice president on wednesday, i said, look, we need to have some debate on pompeo and why don t you ask brennan to stay. he was willing to. they refused. and, third, and most important, pompeo is going to have huge, huge power, and there are issues would start talking a little bit about some of the problems when president trump goes off in this direction, maybe he wouldn t do it anymore. so far, just sticking with the cabinet for a second, so far, sir, you have voted for two of president trump s nominees, voted to confirm general mattis for defense and general kelly for the department of homeland security. which other trump nominees do you plan to support? look, there are some that are not controversial. i m going to wait and hear the debate but this week you ll see a few more put into effect. but, again, advise and consent does not mean ram it through. some of these nominees came before the committees, before their conflict of interest papers were in, before it was clear that they wouldn t have conflicts of interest. many of them have controversial positions and for eight or nine of them there s going to be thorough, thorough debate. maybe even a few more. will you vote for your colleague, senator sessions, as attorney general? i ve already said i ll oppose senator sessions. he has a record on immigration, on voting rights and on civil rights that is so against what america is all about. will you vote for steven mnuchin for treasury secretary? i m studying his record. i haven t taken a position. i m going to wait for the debate on the floor. are there trump nominees that you already have made up your mind besides sessions, in addition to sessions, whom you will oppose? well, i certainly am really dubious of about eight of them because so many of them have conflicts of interest and positions that are that goes against the grain. you know, i await the hearings and i study the hearings, the floor debate, but there are eight or nine that i would have a very hard time voting for, maybe even a few more than that. can you tell us who they are? i imagine one of them would be mr. prewitt for epa head? his positions against clean air and clean water would turn america back for decades. it s it s, again, against the american grain. i haven t made final decisions on any of these people, but i find it difficult to vote for him. let s turn to health care. president trump signed an executive order on friday that he said would have the effect of easing the burden of obamacare. what s your understanding of what this executive order will mean? well, let me first say this. they are in such they are in such they have so many problems with their repeal and replace. it s interesting. if you would have told me that at this point in time democrats would be united and on offense and republicans would be divided on defense when it comes to aca or the cabinet for that matter, i would have said, you know, you re wrong, but it s true, and we ve had a very strong two weeks because they are in such a pickle. they don t know what to do. they can repeal, but they don t have any plan for replace, and the president s executive order just mirrored that. they said do good things, not bad things and do things that are that comply with the law. that s meaningless, and it s because they promised everybody they were were going to repeal and now they have seen all the good things in aca, the 20 million people covered, pre-existing conditions covered, kids 21 to 26 get their parents health insurance. women treated equally as men, and they know that to repeal these things without finding a way to do them, town do them, would be catastrophic substantively and politically so they are in a total pickle and this regulation does really nothing. let s turn to the supreme court. you recently said that you were absolutely willing to keep open the ninth seat, the scalia seat on the court. take a listen. it s hard for me to imagine a nominee that donald trump would choose that would get republican support that we could support, so you re right. so you will do your best to hold the seat open. absolutely. you would do your best to hold the seat open. if the nominee go ahead. what i said on that show was if the nominee is out of the mainstream, we will do our best to keep the seat open. let s remember that of the last four supreme court nominees, two nominated by a republican president and two by a democrat, they had bipartisan support. what you didn t show it on the air there, if the nominee is not bipartisan and mainstream we absolutely will keep the seat open. i m hopeful that maybe president trump will nominate someone that is mainstream and get get bipartisan support, but, yes, we ll fight it tooth and nail as long as we have to. for last four months president trump has had a list of 21 supreme court picks. worked the federalist society on the list, saying they are all conservative judges. are you saying that not one of the judges on that lives 21 is in the mainstream? i haven t studied the records of those 21. i m not going to comment on a potential nominee. i m going to wait to see who the president nominates. my only plea to him, hope, nominate a mainstream person. not someone way out of the mainstream. i want to ask you about your appearance at the presidential inaugural on friday. yes. because you spoke, and i don t know what you could hear. i was farther away from president trump than you were, but there was a lot of booing. let s run a little excerpt of your speech. whatever our race, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, whether we are immigrant or native born, whether we live with disabilities or do not, in wealth or in poverty, we are all exceptional in our commonly held yet fierce devotion to our country. could you hear the boos, and were you surprised by them? well, i couldn t hear much. i was told about it afterwards, but it was amazing. that speech given with any other president, with any other audience would have been cheered. it s not controversial language to say we re all americans. it s not controversial language to reach out to others who might not be exactly like you, and so the fact that people didn t like it speaks poorly of them, not of what i said in the speech. they even when i said we should have rule of law, i was heard booed. when i talked about sullivan ballou, a great civil war patriot who gave his life to his country and said there are some things greater than ourselves, there were cat calls. wow. what kind what kind of situation is that? and, you know, i have to say something. the president-elect ought to lead. when his followers do things like that, he ought to speak positively about being inclusive and being american. the speech should have been aimed at bringing people together, as ronald reagan s speech was, as franklin roosevelt s speech was, democrat and republican, so this is a the fact that saying these things which are usually accepted by just about every american melt the displeasure of the crowd doesn t speak too kindly of that crowd. senate minority leader, chuck schumer. i should say. i should say just the people who booed. i m sure it wasn t most of them. just the people who booed, got it. senate minority leader chuck schumer, democrat of new york, always a pleasure to have you on. thank you. thank you. stay with us. the fiery response from the former cia director after donald trump s visit to the agency. why he says trump should be ashamed of himself. that story next. that i was on the icelandic game show. and everyone knows me for discounts, like safe driver and paperless billing. but nobody knows the box behind the discounts. oh, it s like my father always told me put that down. that s expensive. of course i save people an average of nearly $600, but who s gonna save me? 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do intelligence cheechs also bear some responsibility for this feud? i m joined by congressman devon nunez of california. great to have you here. good to be here. nice to have you here in person. let s start by president trump s visit to the klay, an organization you know so well. an aide to john brennan who was the cia director until friday put out an extraordinary statement says, quote, former cia director brennan is deeply saddened and angered by donald trump s despicable display of self-aggrandizement in front of cia s memorial wall of agency heroes. brennan says trump should be ashamed of himself. you re the chairman of the committee. what did you make of the speech and brennan s response to it? i found out a few days ago that donald trump was planning to go to the agency to swear in mike pompeo because there was an agreement in the senate that all the national security folks would be approved on the first day and that didn t happen, so i think it s important to remember that donald trump had scheduled that in advance in order to swear in mike pompeo. well, the schedule was already planned. i don t think he wanted to change his schedule and he went out there hand met with the cia and i think he was briefed, and, you know, the agents that were there, the cia employees, they were excited to be there, and in fact i spoke to a few last night who i thought maybe were there so i wanted to get their opinion on what they thought hand they said we didn t get a chance to go because it sold out so quickly. a lot of seats there. 400 seats. and he was received well, so i think, that you know, you re going to see at the highest level of the past administration, at that level i think donald trump had a lot of problems with and i don t blame him for having a lot of problems. there were a lot of leaks. so you you think this john brennan s response and also just how he s comported himself, you have an issue with if? look, the former director is entitled to his own opinion, but the fact remains that there were a lot of leaks that occurred over the course of the last 60 to 90 days before in election that most people can attribute back to somewhere within the obama administration directly or the intelligence community, but what people are not talking about, which i thought donald trump said some things that were really important yesterday, he showed an understanding that the cia is the tip of the spear. when the cia gets things right, fewer people will die. he called radical islamic terrorists terrorists. he said they are going to go out and kill the jihadists around the world and they will be eliminated. those were major statements that he made yesterday that nobody is covering. and what do you make just to note just for our viewers, we believe that mike pompeo will be voted on in the senate to be cia director tomorrow evening, monday evening, and it looks as though he will clear, he will be confirmed. what do you make of the criticism that is standing in front of the memorial wall talking about crowd sizes, that that was inappropriate? you know, look, donald trump is a citizen politician. he s really enjoying what he s doing. he s going to take the media on every single day. he s never been in politics, and i think you you re going to see more of this, and i ve seen him on the campaign trail. he was just having a good time. as a matter of fact, this week, this past week, inauguration week, he was showing up to events he wasn t even scheduled to be at. i was at a lunch, supposed to be a small lunch and he stayed for 45 minutes and talked and had a good time and so, you know, it was i think he was just out there to show support for the agency and, of course, like donald trump often does, he he s a very smart guy and he starts to talk about a lot of different things and has fun. just to bring this up one more time because i don t think this point of view has been adequately reflected in the public, especially by people like you who are part of the intelligence community in a sense and being chairman of the house intelligence committee. there is this feud and has been this feud between leaders of the intelligence community and the obama administration and president trump, and you think that president trump in some ways has gotten a bad rap on it, that some of these leaders have been unfair to him. we don t know where the leaks came from. i broke the story, and i can tell you john brennan had nothing to do with it. but there were hey lost leaks that came and it s not just on the last story. this goes back for 90 days, and so, look, as, you know, we always do, we ll look into the leaks and see if we find something, who knows. let s talk about some of these intelligence issues with mike pompeo because senator bernie sanders is planning to oppose him and some democrats have raised concerns. in an op-ed pomp yore wrote, that he co-authored, congress should pass a law re-establishing collection of meta data and combing it with publicly available financial and lifestyle information into a comprehensive searchable database. that might sound alarming to some people. i don t know when that statement was made. as you know, we passed legislation to fix the meta data and it was bipartisan and mike pompeo was in that and voted for it and voted overwhelmingly in the house hand senate so i don t think we ll go back and revisit the meta data issue. i think it s working well. what about this lifestyle information thing? is this something that gets looked at? if you look at lifestyle of terrorists, foreign or abroad, absolutely, but on the american people, no. i want to also ask about the fact that obamacare, you heard chuck schumer saying in the previous interview that he thinks the democrats have had a good couple of weeks with obamacare because republicans, in his view, are in a pickle in his words, because republicans don t know what to replace obamacare with because so many aspects of obamacare are popular. this is an issue that s important to you. what will replace obamacare? yeah. i look at it in three buckets. health care is very difficult in this country to get right, so there s going to be what the administration can do with obamacare first. that s going to kind of one budget you re going to have the bucket on what we can do with the reconciliation process which requires 50 votes plus one in the senate, and then you will have longer term issues that have to be dealt with that need 60 votes in the senate, so a lot of what we re dealing with here is the way the senate is structured, and that s why you re you re there are a lot of good plans out there. i think the big difference between what the republicans want to do and the democrats is the democrats want your health care to be run right here in washington. we want the individual to have health care, and we want every american to have access to health care and we want that health care to be delivered locally, not by big government here in washington, d.c. because then you end up with constituents like you see out in california where we have no specialists who will see our medi-cal patients or our obamacare patients and the that s not good. let me ask you a question about this outstanding issue that there s still these fbi investigation into whether associates of president trump had contacts with the kremlin. there s a new york times story talking about paul manafort, the former campaign chairman, roger stone, carter page, a long-time advis adviser. what can you tell us about this investigation and the intercepted communications? they would have to notify me, they should if that was the case at some point. we have not heard that, and i would say that, you know, we take our job of oversight very seriously on the intelligence committee. we will work in a bipartisan manner, and we ve requested a lot of the we ve requested all of the intelligence that went into the report that was that was issued here a couple weeks ago. we have yet to get that information. they made it available to us on thursday where we had to go out to the cia in order to look at it. that s not what we asked for. we want the information at the committee so that we can come through it so we can get to the bottom of this intelligence report, whether it was put together properly or not. so who is holding it up, the cia, the director of national intelligence? it was the obama administration who hadn t given it to us, and only made it available to us if we went out to the agency. that s not what we requested. we had it delivered to the congress to come through the data to really understand what went into this report and clearly we will we will look at anything and everything and we ll follow the facts where they lead. congressman, it s always a pleasure to have you on the show. congratulations, you were just sworn in, a slightly smaller ceremony with your family to be a member of congress. always good to have you on the show. appreciate you having it first. coming up, the new white house press secretary takes the podium to talk about an issue on the mind of every struggling americans. how big were the crowds on friday. with my moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, the possibility of a flare was almost always on my mind. thinking about what to avoid, where to go. and how to deal with my uc. to me, that was normal. until i talked to my doctor. she told me that humira helps people like me get uc under control and keep it under control when certain medications haven t worked well enough. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you ve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you ve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. raise your expectations. ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, control is possible. 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i have to tell you. i was sitting i was sitting at the podium there, and i could see a ton of people, lots of people. yeah. it was a great day. let s just move on. i mean, it was just there were a lot of people that showed up, and i was happy to see it. there were lots of people that showed up, david, what s going hon here. why would sean spicer in the first press conference be talking about crowd size? the question is who cares. the answer is one person cares and that happens to be the president of the united states and he works for the president of the united states. the real question is who can tell the president do not do this? this is not worth our time who tells him, when you go to the cia when you re speaking in front of the wall of armor. speaking to the armed services ball, don t get into politics and thank and honor the young people who are serving our country. someone needs to be able to do that or he s going to be diverted from the points that he wants to make. seems to me, congressman blackburn, that president trump, whatever the size of the crowd, however big the ratings for the inaugural, he s the president and a lot of people are rooting for him. going down these bunny holes doesn t serve his own interest. he has an opportunity to bring people to him at this point in time and let s do the tote board on the number of regulations we can get on the books, the number of executive orders we can rescind the number of the amount that we can reduce taxes. number of jobs you can bring back to this country. jobs that we can create, and i m going to leave counting numbers on that. next four years from now, i want us to expand broadband enough in this country that we have more people than ever streaming the inaugural. when this happens, you first of all, we all as americans want him to succeed. sure. absolutely. but do you as a supporter of his and ever put your hands in his head say no, don t do that. don t say things that aren t true. you re standing in front of the wall of heros at the cia, don t talk about your crowds. don t berate a pool reporter who messed up. i m cheering for the president and vice president to pull people to them and continue this movement of getting washington, d.c. reformed and pushing power and money out of this city and pack to the states and local governments. head never in hand? i am cheering. i am cheering. i am so for president trump and he is good on building relationships. he is going to build great relationships with capitol hill and he has built a great relationship with the american people and we are going to expand that. well, that s the question. the relationship he s building with the american people because as congressman blackburn points out there is an opportunity here and you were at the women s march yesterday, nina turner. i don t know that he has taken advantage of that opportunity to unite people. well, not yet, one would hope. i mean, good god, the numbers don t matter because he took the oath of office. he s the president. so he has to get over and yesterday i talked to women and men from all walks of life and a lot of them were not necessarily there to protest the president himself as much as some of the policies and the things that they are concerned about. but he has to do more bridge-building and less talk about building a wall. there are walls in this country and it s not between him and folks that are trying to get into this country. it s really between him and some of the people who live in this country. let s talk about his inaugural address. he presented a very starkly populist vision of how he sees the country and what he wants to happen. let s take a look. from this day forward a new vision will govern our land. from this day forward it s going to be only america first. so he really took aim, congressman blackburn, at globalization and elites in both parties, democrats and republicans. not particularly a republican speech, not particularly a conservative speech. critics would say, you know, the ship has sailed on globalization. this is the world we re in. how do you do america first in the 21st century? i think you do it by thinking in terms of the short term and the long term, as you look at policies. how is this going to affect us now and how will it affect us ten years, 20 years, 30 years down the road and that is the view that donald trump will bring to this administration. let s just not doing something thinking of the next election. let s think long term and what kind of legacy is this going to leave? what kind of path is it going to create? goodness, in trade. we need to think about this as we look at manufacturing, bringing jobs back. we have to be thinking about the effects of these policies and what it s going to yield. tax policy and the changes that are going to be there, how is it going to affect families now and then affect their ability to built a nest egg for retirement. david, president obama came to office with a lot of ties to labor unions. he ended up being one of these members of the global elite pushing forward trade deals, although one could argue that were many more in the deal for nafta, for example. is it going to be tough for trump to fight this tide of globalization? look, i don t think i don t think that as you said, i think that ship has sort of sailed. the question is, is that really the battle of today and tomorrow that the congressman talks about the future. you know, there s a greater threat to middle class jobs and wages from robots and computers than there is from china and mexico today. what is the plan for dealing with that? where are the people who are going to have example when driverless cars come online? millions and millions of people. where are they going in the economy and where are they going to find productive work and where does that impact on wages and on family security? these are fundamental questions that people want the president to deal with. in fact, think the new labor secretary nominee is a big proponent of automation in the restaurants that he owns. everyone stay right here. coming up, women across the world taking across the streets yesterday to protest donald trump and his agenda including a star-studded march in his own backyard. how is president trump responding? 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celebs hurt cause badly and a few minutes ago, another tweet. peaceful protests are a hallmark even though i don t always agree i recognize the rights of people to express their views. it is a legitimate question, i have to say. why didn t these people vote? i m sure a lot of them did, but i bet a bunch didn t. good god, jake. we don t know that all of those folks didn t. i didn t say that. i mean, the president doesn t need to get into these little spats with folks. they are exercising their first amendment right which is a beautiful thing, and the president should look at it this way. he knows how to move a bring a crowd out. he brought crowds of folks out all over the world, baby. he did that. should have added those numbers to his crowd size. president trump did that. he brought out the crowds. you i assume we re not participating. i was not participating. i took a run with my husband and, you know, it was very difficult to get through, so we but you are somebody who has had concerns about president trump during the campaign. i know you re rooting for him now as every american is. yes. but what did you make of the marches? well, i can tell you one part of that tweet is true. a lot of the celebrities did not help. madonna dropping the f-bomb over and over again. i would not have brought my child to that event. i think that scarlet johansson, for instance, a window where she said i didn t vote for you, but i want to support you, and i think that that s where we need to start coming together at this. what can we do in the next step is what can we do to help support women? and i m not just talking about, you know, i m talking about allowing women to become entrepreneurs, allowing my daughter wants to be a rocket scientist. what can we do to make sure that we empower our young women to become whoever they want to become, to have as many opportunities as possible to contribute to their communities, to their state and to their country. david, there is an opportunity here for president trump. there s already a lot of talk about ivanka s child care tax credit bill, legislation that she s putting together. there s an opportunity to reach out to a lot of women and do a lot of good for a lot of women. look, i think democrats and progressives will have to make had a choice. if the president actually advances a plan for paid parental leave and advances a plan for health care for everybody, if he truly wants to fight the pharmaceutical industry over these very high prices that medicare pays, then i think democrats are going to have to confront whether they want to fight or whether they want to make some progress. if he does those things. but, jake, he also has an opportunity through the way he conducts himself to send a signal that he wants to be president of all the people, and the two tweets are illustrative of a problem. the first tweet was divisive. there is a sort of dr. jekyll and mr. twitter quality to this guy, and the question is how do you the second tweet was the one he should have sent yesterday, full stop, end of story. do you disagree? and why he didn t. i just think the reason why he s there is because people like that just boldness that he has, you know. people say, okay. well, that s real. it s not scripted. i didn t have to think about it. that is true. and there are people that like that. congressman, that is absolutely true, but let s remember he, first of all, 46% of americans voted for him, 54% didn t. he goes in with the lowest approval ratings of any incoming president and now his job is to build on that and signal to the whole country that he wants to govern for all of america. i get it, but i want you to know that we as americans always look to washington for all the answers, right? i think that s time for us to become the leaders also and conduct ourselves in a way that is reflective of what we want a leader to do. i think that s important for us to make sure that we re the ones that are sending positive messages out there. when i look at who is going to be the role models for my children i m not looking to the president. i m looking to myself. we re speaking to the sense of the decorum of the office of the president and the vice president and those of us in elective office, and there is a responsibility that is there. and my hope is that president trump is going to continue to brings people in, just as he said in his his inaugural address, join together. patriotism. when you re patriotic. there isn t room for prejudice. staved, you re right, on the issues, jobs, health care, fighting back on access, creating access, whether it s health care or opportunity, this is something that should unite us. i do hope that there were lessons from the women s march that yes, pushing forward for incentives on child care and doing something on these issues important. thank you so much. after the break president trump ditches his private plane for air force one. how do the perks compare? 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throughout the 2016 campaign season, donald trump traveled in style, more than most of us and his fellow canned dalgts could imagine. he has a customized boeing 757 with extravagant features. mr. trump s bedroom has yards and yards of elegant gold silk adorning the wall. a custom headboard as well as comforter were created to complement. he has a custom design pillows embroidered with the family crest. reporter: he could take one of his personal helicopters. he gave joyrides to a couple lucky kids and members of the media at the iowa state fair. mr. trump? yes. are you batman? i am batman. reporter: he will have to say good-bye to his personal fleet. don t feel too bad. he s getting an upgrade. air force one. the president and mrs. trump will now ride only on official aircraft, leaving behind his prized possession that had become a symbol of his campaign, from providing the background to some of his rallies to disrupting his rivals. that was pretty well orchestrated. reporter: it will be above the iconic plane that he once blasted as being too expensive on future. boeing is building a new plane, but costs are out of control, more than $4 billion. cancel order. the order has not been cancelled yet. we expect president trump to enjoy the high-tech amenities for the foreseeable future. he s learn that air force one is more than a cushy ride. it s a flying white house. the goal when the president gets on board is to do the same things he does on ground in the white house, to do 45,000 feet in the air. other countries have not come close to what the use has. reporter: while it might not have a private movie theater like trump force one, it does have defensive capabilities like no other plane in the world, including special shielding that protects it from a nuclear blast. it s equipped to evade missiles. even without the opulent gold features, he will still find himself traveling in trump style. thanks for watching. have a great day. where to go. and how to deal with my uc. to me, that was normal. until i talked to my doctor. she told me that humira helps people like me get uc under control and keep it under control when certain medications haven t worked well enough. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you ve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you ve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. raise your expectations. ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, control is possible. yeahashtag stuffy nose. old. hashtag no sleep. i got it. hashtag mouthbreather. yep. we ve got a mouthbreather. well, just put on a breathe right strip and . pow! it instantly opens your nose up to 38% more than cold medicine alone. so you can breathe . and sleep. shut your mouth and say goodnight mouthbreathers. breathe right. that cough doesn t sound so good. well i think you sound great. move over. easy booger man. take mucinex dm. it ll take care of your cough. fine! i ll text you in 4 hours when your cough returns. one pill lasts 12 hours, so. looks like i m good all night! ah! david, please, listen. still not coughing. not fair you guys! waffles are my favorite! ah! some cough medicines only last 4 hours. but just one mucinex lasts 12 hours. start the relief. ditch the misery. let s end this.
bitter campaign there was sadness, disbelief and tears shed around the white house this morning. but president obama stepped up and made a strong call for unity. i had a chance to talk to president elect trump last night, about 3:30 in the morning i think it was, to congratulate him on winning the election. and i had a chance to invite him to come to the white house tomorrow to talk about making sure there is a successful transition between our presidencies. and tonight there are peaceful anti-trump protests around the country. you can see some of them. people exercising their right. live pictures from new york city and chicago. hundreds have taken to the street. wall street in the meantime surging today. a steep drop overnight. election results first showing trump likely to win. the market fell over 900 points ending up with a swing up over the president elect pulling off a stunning victory, capturing the key battleground states of florida, north carolina and ohio. and blasting through hillary clinton s blue wall in wisconsin and pennsylvania, which put him over the top. as i ve said from the beginning, ours was not a campaign but rather an incredible and great movement. made up of millions of hard working men and women who love their country and want a better, brighter future for themselves and for their family. trump, the first non politician to assume the presidency since dwight eisenhower now shifts his focus to the transition of the white house and building a trump administration. once trump takes office in january he ll have republican majorities in both houses of congress to help push through through his agenda. i think what donald trump just pulled off is an enormous joe johns is outfront live in chappaqua, new york. joe, that had to be the hardest thing she s ever done in her life. she indicated it was very painful. i think that is probably a huge understatement. what are you hear about her mind set right now? i think you hit the nail on the head. somber is the word. the speech she gave today visibly painful for hillary clinton. it is clear she wanted to try to console her supporters but frankly did just not have a lot to work with. the campaign did maintain a media presence on twitter and so on. the last tweet that we saw was a bible verse from the book of galatians. let us not what was it here? let us not grow weary in doing good. but it was not signed by hillary clinton with the character h, signaling it came directly from her. hillary clinton s bid to become the first woman to become president came to a painful end. this is not the outcome we wanted or worked so hard for and i m sorry that we did not win this election for the values we share and the vix sion we hold r our country. the democrats urged the country to embrace donald trump as the president elect, her first public comments since the outcome of the election became clear. we must accept this result and then look to the future. donald trump is going to be our president. we owe him an open mind and the chance to lead. reporter: president obama echoing the comments from the rose garden. serve sad when their party lose an election. but at the end we have to remember we are all on one team. we re all now rooting for his success in uniting and leading the country. the peaceful transition of power is one of the the hallmarks of our democracy. and over the next few months we are going to show that to the world. reporter: clinton not hiding the impact of the rebuke by voters. this is painful and it will be for a long time. but i want you to remember this. our campaign was never about one person or even one election. it was about the country we love. her voice breaking with emotion as she spoke to young women who believed in her historic candidacy. to all the women and especially the young women who put their faith in this campaign and in me, i wanted you to know that nothing has made me prouder than to be your champion. reporter: in the end it was a stunning defeat, clinton came up well short in the electoral vote despite holding a narrow lead in the popular vote with some still left to be counted. the defeat leaving supporters in a state of shock. some in tears. consoling each other. clinton tried to give them a lift today with her words. i know. i know we have still not shattered that highest and hardest glass ceiling. but someday someone will, and hopefully sooner than we might think right now. reporter: after the speech the campaign chairman and the campaign manager spoke to hillary clinton s staff in brooklyn urging them to stay in politics. since then pretty much radio silence from hillary clinton. though we were told we were expected to come back here to her home. back you do erin. thank you very much. and breaking news right now. we can now tell you hillary clinton has won new hampshire. certified vote totals in that state now in showing clinton did win new hampshire. the electoral vote now 290 for trump, 232 for clinton. that of course still leaves michigan outstanding. outfront david gergen, mark preston, dana bash. kayleigh mcenany. bakari sellers. paris stenar the and george cord anyway. thanks all for being with me. obviously at this point the electoral, that is over. but that is still a victory for her to be able to say she has new hampshire. right. for her supporters. i heard a yes she lost though. the bottom line is she s lost twice and she s got nowhere to go from this. to maria s point though they did pick up a senate seat in new hampshire which is critical. democrats are going to do have a lot of trouble in congress going into 2018 where the odds are stacked against them. no matter what happens in the trump presidency in the next couple of years, democrats have an uphill battle but the fact of the matter she wasn t able to excite her base in key states. so. and we re going to talk much more with a definitive electoral college win. the popular vote right now still indicating that she ll have that. that split we ve only seen once this century with al gore. dow futures plunging last night. traders outside of the united states sending it down nearly 900 points. it closed up today, resoundingly so. thousand point swing. after all the doom and gloom, you heard all of the people out there say all of these bad things would happen in the market. today the exact opposite for a trump victory. good news for donald trump. just as early on for the brexit voters. you pointed out before we came on the air a big part of that swing is the initial reaction, the negative reaction came in the foreign markets where there is a lot of jittery investors and there is a lot of terror among foreign policy people. but when the u.s. markets open that is when the swing came. i think that is a big part of it. it is also true that investors here are taking a hard look at his economic plan and the fact that he s going to provide fiscal stimulus they think will be on large order starting with tax cuts and investments and infrastructure. both of those things add fuel to the economy and you can get higher interest rates and investors look at that and say that is good news, let s support it. and dana when you lock another what happened today, it was a country showing that people could rise to the best. and it started with donald trump. at 3:00 in the morning. when he came down and he was gracious and he was generous. and he reached out. clinton took about nine hours. and one would presume she was probably physically unable to come out when she first heard the news. when she did speak there was a lot of emotion in her voice as well. here she is. i know how disappointed you feel because i feel it too. and so do tens of millions of americans who invested their hopes and dreams in this effort. this is painful. and it will be for a long time. raw and personal. a side of her we didn t see this election. exactly. and it is the side of her we saw after she lost in 2008. the side of her we saw after within that primary process she lost the iowa caucuses and went on to new hampshire and she had that famous moment where she got emotional. i m not saying she needs to show her emotions on her sleeve because if she did that all the time then she would have other problems. but what she did do there was appear to show her real self. and that is always what happens. doesn t matter who you are, what gender, what party, when a candidate lose, especially loses this big and in this much of a public way and, you know, in this case a big surprise for her, all of your defenses are down and you have nothing but your raw self. and i think that was so clear today. and it also happens, it is inevitable that people say where was that person? where was that candidate? and it is because they are not guarded in that moment. and when you know the winner and the loser it is easy to have empathy for side if you were on the other side. today, george w. bush, george h.w. bush, mitt romney, obviously you didn t support trump. but even on the other side. elizabeth warren, nancy pelosi saying they are going to work with donald trump. elizabeth warren. right. i mean those two have so said. so naes nastiest things of anybody on. turns out after the election grown ups come back. the election really does change you. most of us at heart are partisan and we ve all been fighting and working for a long time on either end of it or covering it. and but at the end of the day the country still needs running and i so actually thought it was really nice to see people from both wings. the progressive wing, the right that didn t support donald trump come out and say listen, we ve got to grow up. we ve got to come together. this is going to be important. we still have a lot of challenges. and, you know, as crazy as this turn of events is, this is the reality. let s move on and get to work? let s talk this. definitive electoral victory for donald trump. when you lookout the popular vote hillary clinton is ahead there. even in state, trump won pennsylvania 16,000 votes out of millions cast. you could call it a mandate or you can call ate the deeply divided country that needs outreach. will trump be able to do the latter? yes and i agree there is a country that does needs outreach. there are big divisions here. and when donald trump came out here and he was big in that moment and praised hillary clinton and praised her hard work. and then went on to say something really important. that is movement of people of all races and all religions and today i ve had a few emotional encounters with the hillary support who are said i can get behind taking my government back. that makes sense to me. when i take the partisanship out of it. what donald trump s say makes sense. bakari, kayleigh is saying she s cease it as outreach is needed. trump s campaign manager and paul ryan don t see that it way exactly. let s play what they had to say today. given a mandate. what donald trump just pulled off is an enormous political feat. he just earned a mandate. mandate. twice. we ve had a difference of opinion in definitions of words throughout the campaign and we ll have a another difference right now. it is not a mandate. whatever we want to call it, i don t think it is that but he does come in today as the winner. and in politics all that matters is who wins the race. it doesn t matter if you get 270 not about the margin. it is about the victory. so donald trump is the president of the united states. i will do everything i can to make sure he s successful. any democrat that will not do anything he can to make sure he s successful is not doing the count ray service. how i will say that today is a devastating day for many people when we woke up this morning. my daughter was inconsolable this morning for many arab americans and imgrants and african americans. many young women. today was a very difficult day. and the reason being is because there are many of us who will do everything we to make sure donald trump is successful but still believe he does not represent what s best for the country. does not represent who we are. and donald trump, his biggest burden is to unify this country. the conundrum is last night he showed that he didn t have to unify the country to be successful. so i don t know why anyone wants me to believe that he ll unify the country today. paris? at the end of the day there are a lot of fragile communities that are suffering. they are blacker this, brown. they are appalachia e they are republican, they are democrat and when you lookout at this decisive victory. i think it is a mandate. you look at the people who say we need change. we need somebody to help us. we need jobs. student loan debt is out of control. and these people are the wons to vote. the pollsters mszed it. they didn t poll them. didn t talk to them. didn t understand where they came from. but a certainly people supporting donald trump. 8% african american. better than mitt romney. the national diversity coalition more trump was out there doing positive things and i believe mr. trump is going to continue this engagement and be the leader that people who voted for him know he can be. we ll talk about the polls and exactly how this happened in a moment. next how donald trump redrew the electoral map. and what trump s loil supporters got right yal supporters got right was your faith ever shaken? i thought the polls were wrong from the beginning. and donald trump s close friend of nearly 40 years was with trump last night as the results came in. tom baric is my guest outfront. we ll be right back when you find something worth waiting for, we ll help you invest to protect it for the future. financial guidance while you re mastering life. from chase, so you can. 80% try to eat healthy, yet up to 90% fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. let s do more. add one a day men s gummies. complete with key nutrients plus b vitamins to help 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biggest political upset in modern history. john king is outfront. and i like people around the world were glued to you last night. county by county, state by state. break it down how did trump win. remember in 2008, barack obama, then senator obama, president obama. he turned all those states blue? well that is what donald trump did last night. wisconsin here. ohio was a swing state normally. florida. iowa. what is the pattern here the sf a lot of the states across the american heartland. 2001, president obama carried them all. 2008 president obama carried them all. donald trump literally rewrote the map of american politics. he did it by winning in the heartland, winning in the industrial midwest and running it up among whites without a college degree. who have been the base of the democratic party. this should be nine not ten in wisconsin. the math has been adjusted but a big win trump is over romney in 2012. a big win in michigan. same voters. a big win in pennsylvania. a big win in ohio. white, industrial state, middle class, midwest rust belt workers went for donald trump. millions of them that we didn t know existed came out and votes for donald trump is a myth. that s not true. donald trump will be the president of the united states. he won. the republicans won the election. donald trump got 1.1 million votes few ore than mitt romney in 2008. he won because democrats stayed home. not because the secret republicans came out to the polls. which obviously answers a big question a lot of people watching have. and the other thing this came down to is something trump knew from the beginning and he pounded the table on it again and again and again. it came down to the economy. and took a lot of cues from the bernie sanders to be honest about this. and in national exit polls trump had the advantage over secretary barely. but on this question does trade take u.s. jobs away. two-thirds of the voters thought trade takes u.s. jobs away and view donald trump as more genuine on that issue and it mattered a lot where there are blue collar voters. back to 2016. let s pull this up. one thick about what happened last night. i m not trying to take anything from the donald trump. he won. a sweeping election. they did a fantastic job. but this is wayne county. this is detroit. hillary clinton got 517,022 in wayne county. four years ago president obama got 595,000 plus votes. that is an 83,000 plus different between obama then and hillary clinton. now she s losing the state of michigan by 11,000 vote. she got the percentages in wayne county. 67%. the percentage looks great. the numbers, she didn t have the numbers. they stayed home. they didn t vote. thank you very much john king. and when you talk about who voted and who didn t. one of the big surprises here as we break this down was hispanics. there were many who said there is no way anyone who s hispanic is going to vote for donald trump because of the wall because of the mexican rapest comment and tho and those people were dead wrong. stunning numbers. what did you get wrong? i didn t. because these numbers are wrong. and i ll tell you why. i have talked about this. the polls, right, time after time in those panels about how they completely undercount the hispanic vote because they don t go where hispanics are and they don t talk to hispanics in the spanish. same with the exit polls. time and time again this happens. 2004 bush got percent of the hispanic vote and it earned up being 40. and we never try to change the narrative because who cared. they won. what do you think the real number is going to be? i know what the real number is going to be. latino decisions which is the premier polling firm did a election link poll and precinct by precinct analysis today and the numbers are hillary clinton got 79% of all latinos and donald trump got 18%. the problem is because other democrats stayed home and there was a wave of white voters. we can t do it all. so we showed up but others didn t. very interesting. what john king said a second ago is really important. and i hope republicans especially whe especially are listening. trump won fewer votes than mccain and romney. and that is because democrats stayed home. what i don t want republicans to think is that democrats have been wrong about the changing map of this country. democrats are right. the country is getting younger and it is getting more diverse. they just didn t vote in the numbers they needed to the point [chatter]. nevada, it was a big reason katherine cortez is now the first senator. and colorado a big reason bennett got reelected. and arizona a big reason joe arapayo is no longer in office. at the end of the day i think david gergen and dana bash and the mark preston sorry where are you going with this. [ laughter ] but it s very simple. either you show up or you don t. politics have very very simple. the hillary clinton campaign had a model. and i stated this earlier that the winner of this campaign had to get 65 million votes to be president of the united states. the winner of this campaign got 59 million. you do have other people running. there was something lightly is different than last time. but you always have a third party candidate running. the model doesn t change. the fact is the fact is there were 6 million democratic voters. this is on us. this is not a wave this is not a tsunami. let s talk about the black vote. she did 88%. obama did better of course. gore did better. barack obama went out and said to the african american community you must vote to preserve my legacy. they did not comply in the numbers needed for her to win. first of all the premise of your question is off. but i will say that african americans did not come out in the numbers they came out with for barack obama. one, i don t know if we know yet but hillary clinton is white and there was a lot of history with al doer gore did better. he was not african american. also you cannot denies some things that happened in this country. the different between donald trump and hillary clinton in wisconsin is 27,000 votes i believe jorng and we also know there are 23 thousand people who didn t comply with the voter since you clearly referred to us as gray beards, let me earn [chatter]. i said experts dana. experts. that is millennial for old. i get it. is he a millennial? candidates matter. and you can do all of the modelling and the demographics and the percentages and, you know, voters are going to vote and we have to get them out. they are not going get out and vote don t. hold on. until and unless they are not only excited about somebody but really feel compelled by their story, by their message, by what they are going to do when they get into that building there. and hillary clinton was the wrong candidate for the wrong time so and donald trump captured lightning in a bottle. can we show because we talked about this over the past few days multiple times. and you said it was possible. and it happened. the polls did note show this. dewey defeats truman. it just happened. something that no one in this country. i just wanted to put it up again. obviously you didn t get the headline. it was too late to even get the headline but with online that doesn t happen. but right, you are a millennial you don t know what that it is. after we all got it so wrong, after we did not know what was coming. we did not anticipate. we spent a lot of money. the day after it seems we ought to be a little humble in explaining what happened. i don t think we know what happens. hold on a second, you know, we go from saying here is what s going to happen with absolute certainty and it doesn t happen and we do know what happened. paris and i have been talking about this for months and months on end. when you circle wayne county and see that immense turnout of blue collar workers and disenfranchised workers who republicans haven t spoken to and democrats haven t spoken to. they showed up. wayne county nothing but black people showed up. and what john king showed is not enough black people. right. dana, that point was brilliant. and the reason it was brilliant you can stop. [ laughter ] finish and then we re going to stop for a moment. the people who did not come out for hillary clinton the way she thought were african american men. and you have to ask. they didn t show up because they have been failed by the democratic party. but you have to ask yourself why? and one of the things that was a stickler nobody pays attention to is you have to go back to the 94 crime bill. somebody today actually said people do not forget there is a whole generation lost. the super predator comment. all of those things came back. the democrat pause for a moment. after you dmoit drinking before coming on the set, one of the reasons is the commonwealth of pennsylvania. defying uflt the polls. becoming the first republican nominee to win there since george w. bush. why in a state that seemed to be so reliably blue? miguel marquez is outfront. reporter: for the trump faithful, never a moment of doubt. i thought the polls were wrong from the beginning. i thought there were a lot of people out there like me that didn t go out and talk about it every day or never got polled but felt very strongly about donald trump. did you think the polls are wrong? yes. because i never thought that hillary would get in. because she is just too sly. for months clinton was consistently up in the polls across pennsylvania on election day 70% of washington county voters stood in line. some for hours. most for trump. what is it about this place that made it tournament for donald trump? everybody is sick and tired of the lies. reporter: bill a house painter says work has been slim and expects trump to turn that around. he s not a politician. this is the problem. there are too many professional liars running our country. that is what they are, professional liars. they make a job of standing around and going i ll do anything you tell me to do until i get in there. reporter: voters like this made trump president elect. clinton won 11 counties in pennsylvania, five by narrow margins. one of the biggest issues here? the cost of obamacare. my health insurance has blown. just for me you are looking at almost 360 bucks a month. reporter: for clinton s urban supporters, the trump victory? what is your over riding emotion this morning? disappointment. shock. shock. reporter: sfeels like the country has changed for worse. how did this happen? but it did. what do you feel today? what i feel today is just just preparing myself to see what s gonna happen. reporter: do you feel like something bad is on the horizon? oh yes. oh yes. i definitely do. so this is washington, that other washington. washington pennsylvania, that went so big for hillary clinton. it wasn t because she didn t try. he had hundreds of staffers here. and 56 offices. this is one of them they are shutting down right now but no matter she did she could not overcome the desire on voters to dismantle the establishment. thank you miguel. when you look at the cost per vote, donald trump criticized for the lack of those field offices is his cost per vote also perhaps setting a record. the senior senator from michigan, senator svanaugh. looks like we are close to calling michigan for trump. haven t gotten there yet. do you think thagz the way this is going to go. i do. 13,000 votes, we ve never seen anything so close. basically a tie. but it is extremely close. about 13,000 votes. .27%. .27%. close but as we ve been saying a win is a win. one more vote and you get the electoral votes. but you didn t think it was going to go this way. our jessica schneider was in your state asking you about this last week. let me play exactly what you said to her when she said is donald trump wasting his time coming to michigan again and again. here is swhae said. the trump campaign saying the hillary campaign is panicking, are they the. no. absolutely not. wishful thinking on their part. look you know the state. you have served in the state. you have served in public office for four decade this is the state of michigan. what did you miss? first of all let me say this really is about people. when we look at all the numbers you and everybody have been talking about. i think what is clear is that the folks who feel left out and behind in this recovery wanted change and were willing to overlook a lot of faults, a lot of things in order to get change. for them, they don t trust any of the establishment. and they want change. so what i m hopeful for. because these are the people i fight for every day. these are the folks that i put bills to the floor to close loopholes to bring jobs home. and i m hoping to see that it will be interesting to see donald trump get his republican colleagues who have been proposing bills i ve had and other democrats have had to actually now come around and be supportive of things like my bill to support a loop hole that allows a company to leave and taxpayers to pay for the move overseas which is outrageous and i ve been trying to get that passed for six years. are you going to work with him? do you see room to work with president trump? if he s willing to follow through on what he said about a rigged system and helping people in closing loopholes and supporting my bring the job home bill, sure. i think the challenge rigged system in some places. rigged system. we as democrats have been saying that there is a now i m not saying rigged voting system. i m saying economically, too many benefits go to those at the top. not enough to middle class people. too many people have fallen out of the middle class and that does mean closing tax loopholes that only benefit the rich. fair trade policies, focussing on the cost of college. all of these things that frankly we have been talking about for a long time and we couldn t and donald trump is a very unconventional republican. looks like he has very specifically on that tax loophole issue room to work with you. i want to ask you something really important though. we ve been talk about how the african american vote, the black vote, there wasn t the turnout. that hurt her. women women, in michigan. 53% voted for hillary clinton. that is a majority. but you know the numbers. barack obama he got 50% in 2012. he got 60% in 2008. women. why did women not support hillary clinton in your state? as the first female nominee for president of the this country? it is very disappointing to me and i think we re going to have to spend time listening and finding out why that was. because i ve said since the beginning if the women of this country want a women president we ll have a women president. and for those of us who really believe this is time, it is something that where he have to thoughtfully look at and figure out. and she s gotten closer than anybody else. and i m counting on the fact that sooner rather than later we re going to get all the way there. but that was disappointing. senator, thank you very much, i appreciate your time. coming on, talking about this today. and next could rudy giuliani be the next attorney general? what about newt gingrich of secretary of state? new details on the trump administration. a lot of decisions to make really quickly. and the man who was in the room with trump when the results came. in joins me next i really did save hundreds on my car insurance with geico. i should take a closer look at geico. geico has a long history of great savings and great service. over seventy-five years. wait. seventy-five years? 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yes. because we re going to win so we have to get ready to form a government. even before the election the trump team was considering places for numerous strategists and aides. kellyanne conway. sean spicer. hope hicks and steve bannon. what question need to do is [ bleep ], the republican party and get those guys heaving too and if we have to we ll take it over. of course all of this is nothing really but educated guesses right now. we don t really know what they are going to be up to and certainly some of donald trump s more polarizing positions could keep some of the mainstream washington players at arm s length, unwilling to step into that white house. but we do know this about d.c., erin. whenever there is a job open close to power, there is always someone ready to take it. that s for sure. all right tom. outfront now tom barrack, close friend and business associate of donald trump for nearly 40 years. we ve spoken time and time again throughout the process. there have been highs and there have been lows. president elect donald trump, has it sunk in for you and for trump himself yet? of course. like i think it sunk in, i was with him last night and this morning. and the best side of president elect trump has come out, which is empathy and humility and compassion. things that you and i have talked about in the past that the viewing population thought we were out of our miebds. so what s happening is you are moving from candidate trump to president trump.nds. so what s happening is you are moving from candidate trump to president trump. and i analogize it to president trump was like a ufc fighter in the middle of an octagon and a martial artist using every tool he could to communicate a message. a message by the way only he really understood. we trying to get him to pivot. and he said of course i can do that. that is not the message i want to convey. and i think last night you saw the real donald trump, humble, kind, compassionate. with a simple agenda. and the agenda is to heal the divide, settle the wounds, calm the country. you saw the market this morning open down on fears. and by the end of the day it is up. so consistency, the ability to have consensus across the board. will be like president reagan. i think you can see in the next two weeks you are talk about the cabinet candidates. and one of the big telling signs how the position will operate is the first five big jobs. state, defense, treasury, chief of staff, homeland security. cia. and if you remember reaganing with an actor for the eureka college with little foreign experience appointed james baker in the first week of his electorate. and then followed it with weinberg, schultz, allen and khan. so i think it is a great opportunity for america to come together. remember we re one team. put all of this anguish behind us. give this man a chance. i think him playing the role of president people will be shocked how good he ll be. so let me ask you that. because, you know, you were one of the people as you just you were open about it. be more presidential. pivot. and he didn t want to hear it. but you are now saying that he is going to be the man that this country saw at 3:00 in the morning giving a gracious and somber speech saying that he wanted to unify the nation, reaching outlet to hillary clinton. do you truly believe that that is the man that will govern? that that is the man that america will see consistently day in and day out? look, a thousand percent. he knows that his first objective right now is to build a bridge to this divide, number one. first and foremost. reach out to the other side. unite this country and then create an agenda. so all of these things people are afraid of. what wall is he going to build? build a wall with understanding. this is america. you can t as a president be a dictator and walk out and be a brunt. he ll be calm, he ll be slow. he ll be considerate. he ll be thoughtful. he ll shock his offenders. and for the victors, i tell all of our peers today. you have to give up hubris. you have to give up the arrogance of victory and reach out to the other side and say now we re really going to build a consensus on these difficult issues together. on immigration, tax reform, foreign policy, on the misi on all of the items that were so difficult in the past.ddle east on all of the items that were so difficult in the past. my panel is back with me. let me give you chance. tomorrow is a big day. barack obama going to meet with donald trump. michele obama going to meet with melania trump. that meeting is crucial tomorrow morning between barack obama and donald trump. yeah. and very historic. and i think based on what we saw with donald sorry w barack obama s speech today, i think he s really set a very conciliatory tone and i would give anything to be a fly on that wall in the meeting tomorrow to see how he interacts. and i think he really does want to see succeed and wants impart whatever kind of knowledge he has that can help him succeed and how will donald trump respond. and that is exactly how barack obama spoke today about george george w. bush. i think president obama wants do that. i was at the white house with president bush and at the end of the term president bush went out of his way to tell all of the staff be respectful, be kind. do all you can do to make this the transition for the next guy coming in. and i he wants to do the same thing for mr. trump. because at the end of the that day he wants mr. trump to succeed and to phil in that legacy. talked about the secretary clinton filling the legacy? there is a gap and i think he s going to fill it. the tone trump used last night i think is the one we can count on but there is nothing he did in the year and a half of campaigning that leads us to believe that is the case. he s got to remember that he s not only the president for the people who came out to support him, he is the approximapreside many communities whom he has offended in the last year and a half. right now they are hurting. kids are hurting. kids are worried about what s going to happen in these communities. i think you are going to see that kind of outreach. donald trump one thing i admired so much about him in the campaign. hoe brought in a diversity coalition. he brought in latino. he listened. he went to these community. first republican candidate to ever have a cohesive message to the african american community. he s going to be they don t feel that way right now. they don t feel that way. the majority, how about that? the majority of african americans and the latinos do not feel that way. not try. absolutely. the majority of did vote that way. coming up next bp engineers use underwater robots, so they can keep watch over operations below the sea, even from thousands of feet above. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better. i m bushed! i ve been on safety is my feel alyea me too.sfied. excuse me.coming through! ride the gel wave of comfort with dr. scholls massaging gel insoles. they re proven to give you comfort. which helps you feel more energized .all day long. i want what he has. this is my retirement. retiring retired tires. and i never get tired of it. are you entirely prepared to retire? 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she should really be apologizing to me if you want to know the truth. susan, i thought just as a guy watching this thing that megyn kelly nobody is not a competitor in this business. everybody is doing their job trying to get ahead. that she won that exchange, that she made him look out of control, his temperament was totally out of whack and she seemed calm and tough doing her job. i completely agree. she acted like a profession noll asking an appropriate question but not enough to cost him the presidency along with a series of interactions. he lost women but he won white women by 10 percentage points and that was a surprise. what did you make of that? the blood thing, i didn t get it the fist time. oh my god, this guy is gross. yet it didn t seem to stop him. it created the outcome because it with us a good conspiracy against republicans running for office. in other words, you found republicans chiding fox and megyn for the way they engaged with donald trump. let s take a look at this first debate. hillary clinton knows how to fight too. she seemed to bait trump by bringing up a former miss universe. trump blew the story into a much bigger deal by spending the next few days attacking the beauty queen. she was the winner and she gained a massive amount of weight. it was a real problem. we had a real problem. not only that, her attitude. i saved her job because they wanted to fire her for putting on so much weight. it is a beauty contest. they know what they re getting into. it s a beauty contest. and i said, don t do that. let her try and lose the weight. i end up in a position like this. trump even urged people to hunt don a supposed sex tape that turned out to be nonkp nonexiste nonexistent. he goes in and fights in a fox hole. he wants to fight on this line and against women. let me suggest two themes here that we re going to be discussing for this entire hour. the one is that the media failed to analyze thhow trump used the media. let s talk about that for a second. he loves the controversy. he courts the controversy. he uses the controversy. he sucked the energy and wind and attention out of every other candidate in the race. donald trump s motto was and is, if the attention is on me, no mat whaer the cause, it s a good thing. number one. the second sub part of that is attack, attack, attack, always attack your accuser. that s one thing. we noo the media missed the way he used us the entire year. and the second big point is people want change and wanted change and they will pick up whatever they need to pick up no matter what you say about that instrument. that s what happened this whole year. and the irony is, to make your point, the guy who got hurt in the next episode with the guy from the media. the biggest bombshell was in october when audio surfaced from an interview with donald trump and former access hollywood host billy bush. listen to what donald trump says he can get away with because he s a celebrity. i got to use some tick tacks just in chase i start kissing her. i m automatically attracted to beautiful i start kissing them. it s like a magnet. and when you re a star they let you do it. you can do anything. whatever you want. grab them by the [ bleep ]. so he s president of the united states elect and billdy bush is out of a job. th i guess that s what happens to the media. that was mortal. but it was tliek 56 mortal wound. remember when he said john mccain was wasn t a hero and we thought that was a mortal wound? i actually think with all of these candidates their strength and multiplied for donald trump, your strength is your weakness. that s his streng because people want change, they want things shaken up. in a funny way it helped make his brand. to make howard s point, every fight he had was with the establishment. whatever it was, no matter what you thought of what he said, it said also, sub stex, i m not one of them. therefore i m a change agent. hieidi the issue here with te tape, i think a lot of women the women vote wasn t that bad for him, less than the majority for the republican, it seemed like he benefitted and women weren t as outraged. we all went back to our partisan corners. he s point out there was a significant gender gap here and for the first time in a long time the democrats took married women. i don t think we can dismiss this saying that women decided at the end of the day this was all okay. i think this would have been a mortal wound and it definitely was going into the final debate in las vegas. it was very grim. i saw no surrogates flying on my plane out there other than jeff sessions. this may have really be a mortal wound. but i think it s a little depressing for some women who did kind of put things their reputations on the line in coming out in terms of what the lesson is because of the blowback they personally he hasn t settled that stuff yet. can i say it s depressing for everybody. not just women. it s depressing for everybody that he was able to use these to show in an odd upside down way his insolent bravery. the gender gap this year, 11 points. that s not a record. only matches the record from 1996, bob dole and bill clinton. can you imagine that donald trump did as well as bob dole did among women. people in the media and the political class continue to look at the selection through conventional lens. excuse me for living. i know. but you know, here it is with the egg on your face after this guy has weathered all of these storms. it really goes to what you were saying that at the end of the day people were kind of looking at this and were kind of maybe put off but also attracted at the same time. i think we re taking with the exclamation point when something like that hams. oh my god he did that, we read the headlines in the news, oh my god, and the people out there are like, they re making a big deal about this. let me think about it myself. always come back to the fact that half of the registered voting electorate chose not to vote. there s been some compelling journalism out of these milwaukee districts, for example, philly direcstricts wh voted in 2012 but were so disheartened by what has or hasn t happened and didn t think this would make a big difference in their lives. i have an obvious point to make, which is first woman nominee for president and it didn t work in her favor in terms of consolidating the votes of women. donald trump may have in an odd way made politics so distasteful, dragged it down so far it depressed the vote of anybody other than his firm eest allies. donald trump s angry rhetoric on race. me painted ethnic groups with a broad brush calling mexicans rapists. and that kind of talk would have destroyed any other politician but not in this case, trump. this is hardball, the place for politics. to folks out there whose diabetic nerve pain. extraordinarily painful, i hear you. make sure your doctor hears you too! i hear you because i was there when my dad suffered with diabetic nerve pain. if you have diabetes and burning, shooting pain in your feet or hands, don t suffer in silence! step on up and ask your doctor about diabetic nerve pain. tell em cedric sent you. generosity is its oyou can handle being a mom for half an hour. i m in all the way. is that understood? i don t know what she s up to, but it s not good. can t the world be my noodles and butter? get your mind out of the gutter. mornings are for coffee and contemplation. that was a really profound observation. you got a mean case of the detox blues. don t start a war you know you re going to lose. finally you can now find all of netflix in the same place as all your other entertainment. on xfinity x1. welcome back to hardball. well, recognizing an opportunity, every savvy businessman burst on to the political scene by warmly embracing the birther movement, calling into question president barack obama s nationality. why doesn t he show his birth certificate? you know what, i wish he would? because i think it s a terrible pale that s hanging over him. nobody ever comes forward or knows who he is until later in his life. it s very strange. he may have one, but there s something on that birth certificate, maybe religion, maybe it says he s a muslim, i don t know. i have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they re finding. you have people now down there searching i mean, in hawaii? absolutely. and they cannot believe what they re finding. i still would like to see his college records. a couple of things. trump comes along and said birth certificate. he gave a birth certificate. whether or not that was a real certificate, because a lot of people question it, i certainly question it. outrageous. anyway, questioning president obama s birth certificate provided trump with the foundation upon which he built his 2016 campaign. so it s not entirely surprising that he declared his candidacy by attacking an entire nationality. here he goes. when mexico sends its people, they re not sending their best. they re not sending you. they re not sending you. they re sending people that have lots of problems. and they re bringing those problems with us. they re bringing drugs, they re bringing crime, they re rapists, and some, i assume, are good people. well, accusations plagued his campaign to the bitter end, of course. and for more on how trump demolished political norms when discussing race in america, i m back with our panel. michael steele, msnbc political analyst, susan page with usa today, heidi przybyla also with usa today, and howard fineman with the huffington post. the racist thing jumped out at me. what is that based on? is it based on data? how many rapists are there? it s based on crimes that had been committed by illegals here in the united states, over a period of time. so you take one or two instances and kind of glom them together and it becomes a pejorative representation of everybody. yeah. so trump has this unique way of taking language and sort of exploding it up. so, you know, you can do one thing, but then all women, all right, you can say one thing, and it s like, well, i ve been hearing from a lot of people. so that kind of political rhetoric worked very effectively for him. and he was able to because he could always, as you saw in the clips, deflect. he said, i m not saying, someone else said it. it may have been one guy standing in a corner whispering to himself. let s get back to journalism for a second on one point. he said, let s just fact check this. i ve got people out in hawaii, and you won t believe what they re coming up with. then he goes to this manchurian candidate theory, that not only guy snuck in the country, but he assumed a false identity. that he wasn t the guy going through harvard law, he wasn t the guy at columbia, nobody knew him. what was that about? that he was some mysterious pretender. well, it was about raising a cloud of dust about barack obama. and not based in fact. and in fact, saying things that were shown to be disproven. things that you could prove were not true. and these suggestions, maybe his birth certificate said he was a muslim, that wasn t true. nobody knew who he was until he got into high school or college, that s also not true. it s a rhetorical technique that is dangerous and that journalists have an obligation to call out. you know when you go to a criminal trial or watch them. someone once stole my card and i learned how it was done, you make up completely different stories, that have nothing to do with reality, so the jury thinks there s plausible deniability, what s it called, shadow of a doubt. just make up a story, because that might be true, too. it might be true that he doesn t even exist as barack obama. it works for some people. this is bringing back flashbacks to the campaign trail, actually, right after the primaries in new hampshire and bill clinton was telling voters to be careful, because a lot of this is going to happen during this campaign. and it s not about facts anymore, it s simply about raising the suggestion, putting the suggestion out there and letting it multiply. and we re seeing that not only by trump, but by some of the people who are some of the leading conspiracy theorists, quite frankly, who have now been brought on, like michael flynn. if you look at some of the things he was tweeting just days before the election about hillary clinton and child pornography and money laundering. it s really crazy stuff. can i say, we re beating around the bush here a little bit? donald trump goes for the perceived weaknesses of any public figure or anybody that stands in his way. with his voters and with a lot of other people, we need to talk about race, we need to talk about religion, and we need to talk about ethnicity. he was going after the first black president, the first african-american president. he was going after the notion that he was a muslim, which was somehow supposed to be a mark against him, in this society. and he was going against latinos and mexicans in particular. and in this rough marketplace of politics, he was willing to go, he was willing to touch buttons that other people have not been willing to do. as a matter of fact, not only gingerly do it, but to do it aggressively. anything that smacked of criticism of him, he brushed off as political correctness. he was attacking the entire culture of the last 20 or 30 years of the supposed consensus that we had that you don t speak that way about other people. this is hardball, the place for politics. the cadillac xt5. what should we do? 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to win and why losing for him may be uniquely hard to bear. and his drive to win a state he cannot afford to lose, florida. jim acosta reports. where at least i know i m free reporter: donald trump stepped off his plane to big cheers. americans are going to experience another massive double digit hike. they said 25%. forget. up take 25 percent. it is going to be 70, 80, 90%. you have to brush up on your negotiation ability, believe me. squl the gop nominee is seizing on his latest report on obamacare that find whose buy their insurance through the affordable care act will see their insurance go up 22% on average next year. and i. and i can say all of my employees are having a tremendous problem with obamacare. you folks, this is another group. is that a correct statement. if you look at what they are going through with their healthcare is horrible because of obamacare. the problem, trump and even the hotel s general manager later acknowledged they don t receive their healthcare through obamacare. they get it through trump. i d say 99% of our employees are ensured through the hotel. our insurance and maybe a few threw obamacare because we supply it. still a dangerous time for republicans. kelly ayotte quickly turned the news into an attack ad against her. she can t stand up up to her party. she supports the healthcare law bill clinton called. the craziest things in the world. lookout for working americans. better say good or i ll say you re fired. who is that guy? you re fired. attending the ribbon cutting in washington d.c. he was at that hotel earlier this year when he acknowledged president obama juanes miles per hour citizen. and donald trump will soon will returning to his hotel business. today facing head winds secretary clinton spent the day in south florida. more in jeff zeleny. reporter: hillary clinton in florida opening a two week fight to the finish. i feel good but i m not taking anything for granted. i m going to work for hard as i can between now and the close of the election. americans are coming together. on a two-day florida swing cents is hitting democratic strongholds. her long embrace of obamacare. before there was something called obamacare suddenly could be an 11th hour liability. as republicans pounce today she was silent about it at her rally in a miami radio interview clinton said millions of americans now have healthcare under the law but acknowledged major shortcomings. but former president bill clinton under fire for pointing out flaws in the system now telling voters in north carolina healthcare should be fixed not repealed. yeah there is something wrong but you don t want to choose somebody who is the liviing embodiment of what s wrong. reporter: and a new batch of campaign chairman john podesta s hack e-mails shows even he was flabbergasted to to set up a private e-mail system for clinton. clinton expresses outrage at sheryl mills. and why didn t they get this stuff out like 18 months ago? so crazy. unbelievable podesta replied. they wanted to get away with it. tanden shot back. obama who s heading back to florida on friday weighed in last night on jimmy kimmel live. president obama will go down as perhaps the worst president in the history of the united states, exclamation point. at real donald trump. well @real donald trump. at least i will go down as president. has clinton said anything at all about the premium hikes other than the radio interview? surprisingly this is his her signature political issue for the last 20 years. she was utterly silent about it today at the rally here this florida. her aides say, look she does not want to necessarily litigate this in the final days but the reality is republicans are litigating. she has talked about this a lot on the campaign trail and it debates. and she says it knows it needs to be overhauled and fixed but not repealed that would take away healthcare from some 20 million americans. but there is a political headache she was not expecting or looking for. it is why they want the early votes now before this becomes even more of a controversy. more on why florida is such a must win for donald trump. let s bring in david chalian. how porte is florida? it is the biggest prize there is. 29 electoral votes. and the candidates know it. take a look at how many times they have been visiting the sate since the conventions. hillary clinton six ties. donald trump is on his ninth visit. and i m sure this is nooits of their last visits. let s look where they chose to visit. what does that tell us? donald trump was in seminole county. in 2012 went seven points to mitt romney. he was on a mission to go to a base county and drum up the vote there. and not dissimilar from hillary clinton. in broward county. a county barack obama won 67-32 over mitt romney. tlefs interest she was there to base voters. joining me now blah blah blah. awesome people. also trump supporters kayleigh mcenany and corey lewandowski. lets start with the non partisans. for donald trump florida is critical. the problem is he s also got to get a bunch of other states as well. florida is must-win. if he doesn t win he s dead in the water. he s got pick up a lot of states. he s got to do better than mitt romney in 2012. he s losing to hillary clinton in north carolina which romney won in 2012. arizona a toss up. georgia and texas are closure. all these he has to defend but at the same time he has to win pennsylvania and ohio. and right now the math isn t there. florida is a must win but so are a lot of other states. what is more important? energizing the base or reaching out o other voters. at this point it is probably better that you have to stick with your plan. there is not a lot of time to start shifting resource t. the reality is he still has a path to victory. he s got win florida. that is tough. if he can t he s got leads in ohio or he s within four points in iowa and ohio. that brings him within 11 electoral votes. at that point if he can get pennsylvania he s in the ballpark. he wins. if he can flip nevada. he gets closer and closer. so you can t start redrawing all of your strategy, you know, shifting all of your resources across the country with just two weeks 20 go. that is not rational. with obamacare the premiums going up. does hillary clinton run out the clock and try not to mention until she absolutely has to. it certainly doesn t do her god to talk about it. but it is important to remember there are almost 10 million people who have voe r already voted. including in florida. where democrats and republicans are running neck and neck in who s come out to vote. a lot of votes banked and she s got a much stronger ground game. a lot of folks focus onside getting people out to the polls. and we re going talk to you are a partisans after the break. we ll continue the conversation later donald trump if his own words. really revealing fascinating stuff when we continue th fans g r next hit album, we return to our extravagant private studio, where we turn gold into platinum. yes, i am rich. that s why i drink the champagne of beers. i think that is probably true. do you think florida is a must-win for donald trump. i do. if you look at the map mitt romney had. you need to win florida and if you give him ohio and iowa. that is 11 lek troelectoral vot short. there are several paths and what you will see is look at where they are deploying the surrogates. eric trump in new hampshire. donald trump is going to be in new hampshire and maine friday. he d make a west coast swing to nevada. l they look at this differently than what polls are saying and what people think. if you look at exit polling and polling that s been done recently. the monmouth poll shows he s getting 16% of the african american community in north carolina. in pennsylvania, 29%. in wisconsin, 15%. these are unheard of number ofs for a republican. that should really scare hillary clinton as this race gets closer. i think hillary clinton should be scared and i think she acknowledged today she s not going take anything flr granted. should she be cared about obamacare premiums going up? i think she needs to address it. she s not so far. shed a a radio interview where she talked about it. her position is not knew. she s said before that is law that needs to be fixed. it certainly should not be repealed. but yes there are certain problems that need to be addressed. that is not anything new. kayleigh is this an issue that can make the difference for donald trump in the closing weeks? absolutely. so tied to the economy. you have votes are hurting economically and when you look at facing double digit premium increases that directly effects do you think it changes minds? people thinking about clinton but the. gentlemenyes. i 100% too. there s been no meaningful dialogue on obamacare and this is a place that directly effects the pocketbook. and people will remember the premiums they are going to have to play. the problem is there are a few problems. one is donald trump is not capable of talking about any issue. he can t put together more than three or four sentences that are coherent in talk about an alternative. and the republican party has no alternative to obamacare. other than to throw people off care and not have people covered for pre existing condition which is obamacare solved. lastly ux to hillary clinton s credit she s publicly stated is one thing she wants to do with obamacare is improve it by offering a public option. many of us have said and i think there will be a debate in the democratic party about this that the only way to solve the healthcare crisis in general is to singer payor medicare system which is a public option and she but it doesn t help donald trump when today he s gottoid all his employee asks they are having trouble obamacare and they don t have to back. because he s fortunate enough to provide healthcare through his corporation zb. but is he the best message 1.35 million on the same system. and you take the humana option, the premium increase is 19%. that is the average across florida. that is devastating if you are a clinton supporter or an obama supporter and you are going to the polls saying i m going to see a 30% increase. already voted particularly in florida. i m putting everything i can in the bank. the more this is talked about the more people hear about sure. but i think a couple of things. especially in florida there has been already a million people who havoted. florida is a state tailor made more hillary clinton. latinos voting at 99% more than in 2012. you don t think this obamacare. no. i don t think this is going to flip. not enough time number one. and two, to your point donald trump is an awful messenger. i was asking. you asked the question but the point is he s an offensive line messenger. he sounded absolutely clueless not even knowing that obamacare wasn t something his own employees used. so when that you have a kind of comparison, people are going to say at least hillary clinton is addressing the problem, not wanting to take it away from me. because let s remember 80% of the people are not the question is will people believe they want to throw the whole thing out and start with something republicans are going to offer or just amend what exists. people with look at history and know that the republicans never offered anything but the free market solution which was devastating to people. tens of millions of people did not have healthcare coverage. a good example of now in california. one reason the premiums are going up is because of drug prices. republicans opposed any tempt for medicare to negotiate over drug prices. there is a proposition, which is attempting to reduce drug prices and the pharmaceutical industry spending $100 million, which is funding the republican party, big donors through the republican party is spending a $100 million to defeat this. what donald trump says is it is basically free market but free existing conditions are going to be covered and he doesn t explain how pre existing conditions can be covered unless there s as mandate. trying to put together a plan to be the replacement for years now. there isn t a good option. none. seven years. i do think it is worth point ought two things about this that will lessen the political effects. first is that most of the people on the obamacare exchanges are subsidized. secondly this is also kelly you said there is a good option. republicans haven t put forward a plan. pyre paul ryan has put forward a very the public option. two words. the veterans administration. we ve had a so called government-run healthcare system and a lot of veterans died waited for the care so the v.a. 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i loved to fight. i always loved to fight. physical fights. yeah all kind of fights, physical arguments? all kind of fights. any type of fight i loved. including physical. and ivana sat down. explaineding how six months into the relationship she saw how trump reacted when she outskied him. i told him. i can ski. because his ego is so big. i went up. i went two flips in front of him. i disappeared. donald was so angry. he took off his skis. his boots and walked up the road. so he left you? yeah. wow. he could not take it. he could not take it. he went full bear. after restaurant. said i m not going to do this hit for anybody and . he could not take it. i could do something better than he. for trump everything is a competition. especially business. never had a failure. because i always turned a failure into a a success. the theme weaves through his interviews. refusal to acknowledge any business failures. i bought something i unbelievable deelt. wiped out a lot of the debt. came back. next day i read the story. trump files bankruptcy. i get all these people who don t understand business saying oh did you go bankrupt. he talks about this a lot. i do. i ll tell you why i do. what always bothers me is false stuff. what doesn t bother him? fame. trump admits he needs it. it s happened from from the time i was fairly young. it just happened. did it unnerve you at first? no. or make you feel unsafe ever. no no. i think what would unnerve me if it didn t happen. doesn t see need more reflection but takes a moment to talk about marriage. when you think about balancing your ambition and your relationships with people you lo love, what s changed? well it is very hard reporter: ex-wife ivana said what ended after three children with him, trump s affair. she doesn t have a brains. i have no idea what donald was doing with her. but immediately when i find out i file for divorce. this is it. just if you cannot trust your spouse, you know? it is over. reporter: trump up ended the presidential election with much more than fiery rhetoric. the interview show he did it with a singular unyielding belief in himself. most important thing is being able to have the proper vision and then never quitting a lot of people say oh you can never give up. you can give up if you have a stupid vision. you need the proper vision and then you have to have the ability to get it done. that from 2014 interviews of trump. the author of truth about trump. i spoke with him a short time ook. seems like so much of donald trump has binomial influeneen is father. the idea of being super tough. never giving up. when you hit me, i hit you back ten times harder. that is fred trump. and also the thing that never left me was donald telling me this story about him being sent away to the military academy. and it was a matter of this kid is acting up at school. we re going banish him. really? and all of a sudden the two sisters and two brothers are cozy at home in this mansion and. trump was the only one sent to he was. and i think it may have suited him. he might have been the kind of rambunctious kid the parents felt they needed the discipline. but fred s toughness and coolness. i think he was a pretty cold guy too. interesting because trump talks about how his dad was based out in queens and how he wanted to come to manhattan. maybe it is too far to say it is a criticism but he does seem to point out he sort of came to an area his father never ventured. i think he wanted to one up him. so a kind of exceeding the dad thing that won t. even though friend was one of the richest men in america. his fortune was $200 million. so this is not a guy of no consequence. and hillary clinton kept poke by saying your father gave you $14 million to start out and donald trump says that is not true. much bigger than that. it was bigger than that? yes. the father arranged for all the political connections which were priceless and the financing for his first project which was more than $40 million. donald was born on third base and likes to take credit to get there but his father put him there. he also doesn t want to look back at the past very much. he also said to me i don t like o analyze myself or think about the past because i m afraid of what i ll see. unlikely most of us who look to learn from our mistakes and may reflect on what well what went into mic making me this person? he ended our time together pre maturely. we were supposed to meet six times and we only met four for formal interviews and it was just at the moment when i felt he was opening up. starting to tell the truth. and at the end of our last interview i said, you know, i kind of like you today. and he went back a little bit and then smiled. and i almost felt like this is the thing that people see in donald they like but he doesn t let it show. the dohe does have a charge one-on-o one-on-one. and got a glimpse of that at the end of the second debate. very contentious chen a person said can you say something nice about your opponent he said something which seemed genuine about hillary clinton being a fiekt fighter and doesn t give up and respects that at about her. i think it was gennen and this is the frustrating thing for those of whois have spent time with donald. both of his ex-wives said the same thing. they thought they could spark that thing in him and keep it alive and help it to grow and it never happened. there is also a real i don t know if it is a fear of humiliation but humiliation seems to be a recurring theme. this is why he talks about how they are making fools outs of us. our foreign competitors or they are laughing at us a. which is something he s been saying and putting in newspaper ads. whole life. yeah. so why does this guy always think about humiliation? why does he worry that people are laughing at him? i suspect that someone laughed at him a lot when he was young and he s been trying to make up for it ever since. more with my interview of michael dantonio in the next hour. just ahead the fallout from price hikes in obamacare premiums. will they be able to leverage sticker shock into actual votes? something new has arrived. uniquely designed for the driven. introducing the first-ever infiniti qx30 crossover. visit your local infiniti retailer today. infiniti. empower the drive. we catch flo, the progressive girl, at the supermarket buying cheese. scandal alert! flo likes dairy?! woman: busted! 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[ laughter ] an october surprise. premiums are expected to climb average of 22%. president obama considers obamacare to be one of his signature accomplishments. and republicans have new ammunition. here is michelle kosinski. does this produce the payment you are feeling? obamacare sticker shock. 22% more on average if premiums this year. compared to 7% in 2016 and throw more fuel onto the republican fire to repeal it. obamacare is a disaster. you know it. we all knee it. president obama last week compared obama to the samsung galaxy phones that have spontaneously burst into flames. what a coincide because that is what we re going to do with obamacare. we re going to pull it off the market. the numbers in some cases are staggeri staggering. arizona s average increase will be 116%. how to indiana s will actually go down by 3%. the democratic governor of minnesota where premiums will prize 50-67% declared. the vooelt the affordable care act is no longer affordable. reporter: the administration pushing back saying the vast magen majority of people on obamacare won t feel the increases. 85% of those folks actually have the tax credits or the subsidies that help them and those subsidies are designed to move as premiums move. so for those folks they will be insulated from the changes. reporter: neurinsurers are hg trouble affording those that swhiened up but with more health problems than expected. not enough young, healthy people are joining to outfit cost. that means fewer choices and higher rates. the white house agrees there are issues but focuses on the positives. more americans covered. no lifetime limits. no more denial of coverage for pre existing conditions. according to the latest government analysis, most people are able to find an affordable plan. the president continues to sell it. now is the time to move forward. the problems that may have arisen from the affordable care act is not because governments too involved in the process. the problem is is that we have not reached everybody and pulled them in. michelle kosinski cnn the white house. reporter: lot to talk about. joining me now the panel. so david, trump is obviously trying to use the rise in obamacare care rates to chip away at clinton s lead. do you see that working? well an in an ordinary campaign this would be big, big news and it would hurt the imcouple bent, in effencumbent,. and when the obama people come back and say well people get subsidies. who pays? the taxpayers do. the money comes out of somebody s pocket to pay for all this. but having said that, first of all trump has rich such an incendiary campaign it is really difficult to pry people abe. and secondly, he himself fumbled today to talk about this. he first talked about all the agony his employees were going through because of obamacare. he didn t seem to realize that he in fact, his company was actually covering a number of people. that was the subsequent damage control story. the whole thing is this is going to have less impact nan normal. is he the best messenger to effectively prosecute the case against obamacare and hillary clinton on this? obamacare has always been an issue but not his signature issue like building the wall and he doesn t have a lot of facility in terms of tucking about healthcare. i think a problem he s got also is 7 million people have already voted and i think that the people who hate obama and obamacare are already trump voters. so the question is how many undecided voters or independent voters could this potentially move and at this point i think the cake is kind of baked on that issue. people have decided on obamac e obamacare. and also he s not really the one to president the issue because he can t stay on a single message. he had a revealing interview with rush limbaugh today in which he said people want me to stay on obamacare. but i have to defend myself on the women issues. limbaugh asked him about it. and he just admitted it. other people say stay on jobs. stay on obamacare and repealing and replacing it. so i guess it is two theories. and he said i would rather fight it. people say you shouldn t do that and just go along and by fight it he means fight it on the women front. he hasn t given up on that. and trump says he would refeel and replace obamacare the question, what with? and he doesn t always use specifics and he also says the pre existing conditions are going to get covered which is just hard to square that? i think that is right anderson. and what we do now know is that some sort of national healthcare that applies to everybody is going to be our future. we are not going to go back to the system we had before. and the republicans, you know, have the opportunity here to devise and show us a market base kind of plan, one with a lot of incentives and say hey here is a better way to do it. but trump hasn t come one that plan. and he doesn t have a republican alternative he s advancing. gloria is right. he doesn t have facility in talking about something which is actually very fundamental to the campaign. we got to leave it there. just ahead trump supporters in the state of florida talk about wbr id= wbr28716 /> issues most pivotal to them and which donald trump s policies they like misi /b> tv character: why are you texting my man at 2 a.m.? no. if you want someone to leave you alone, you pretend like you re sleeping. it s what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it s what you do. tv character: taking selfies in the kitchen does not make you a model. i love that my shop is part of the morning ritual around here. people rely on that first cup and i wouldn t want to mess with that. but when (my) back pain got bad, i couldn t sleep. i had trouble getting there on time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour strength of aleve. for pain relief that can last into the morning. look up at a new day. hey guys! now i m back. aleve pm for a better am. want to hear. it s about issues. about jobs. that advice the often ignored, though, by donald trump. but we wanted to know what exactly are the issues that his supporters want to hear him talking about? randi kaye went to find out. reporter: what exactly are the issues that bring supporters to donald trump? for some of them,s at his rally in florida, it s the second amendment. how do you feel about his stance on guns? what does that mean? thumbs up? i am thumbs up second amendme amendment. i love my guns. reporter: this trump supporter also believes that he will protect her right to own a gun. i like that he wants to support the average citizens right to own guns and protect ourselves not only from criminals, but from our government, if they would go dictatorship or go too much control. reporter: voter ian smith likes trump s talk of sealing our borders and imposing term limits for congress, too. but when pressed about why he likes trump s plan to repeal obamacare, ian was short on details. do you know what his plan is or no? i do. reporter: do you want to share? it s top secret. reporter: now you sound like donald trump. i ll tell you when i get in there. reporter: this woman told me she also likes trump s idea to turn obamacare, but when our conversation turned to trade, our interview went south. evening the playing field will help. let them pay to bring their goods in here, like we pay to take our goods to them for export. let them pay to import. so you re all for him renegotiating nafta and getting rid of tpp? well yes. okay. there you go. i know you re trying to make us look stupid, right? no, we re actually really? no. i m actually doing a story about what policies okay. people are attracted to. well, you looked at our shirts and said i thought we were having a nice discussion, actually. reporter: this man may have prompted that, but recording our every move, accusing us of asking gotcha questions and angry we weren t wearing cnn identification. reporter: have you identified who you re with? have you identified who you re with? i m an independent media well, how am i supposed to know that? he made sure to alert everyone who we were before we could interview him. until it backfired with this woman. oh, i love cnn. what brings you out to see donald trump? what policy attracts you? i like the fact that he is pro-life. i like the fact that he is pro-constitution, and i m all about creating jobs in america, for americans. reporter: she isn t sold, yet, though on trump s immigration policy. there s still some gray areas. i don t understand. and i want him to flesh that out a little bit more. reporter: immigration is a huge draw for this voter. when we look at his immigration policy, what he is saying is extreme vetting. now, that does not mean religious vetting. that means extreme vetting. i want policies in place so we re doing what we need to know to make sure that americans are safe. reporter: in the end, we found many here who, despite their unwavering support for the republican nominee, could not name a single policy donald trump stands for. reporter: what policies do you like of his? all of him. reporter: what do you like the best? is there a specific policy that you like that he s put forward? do you not want to talk about that? randi joins us now from orlando, florida. it is interesting that just two weeks before the election, some of the supporters, you know, don t name a particular policy. maybe it s more the character they like, the personality of donald trump, the strength that they believe he exudes. absolutely, anderson, and many of them actually, when i asked them about policy, sounded just like donald trump. they would say to me, all of his policies are great. they re all going to make america great again. everything s going to be wonderful. but yet they still couldn t name a specific policy that they support. now, there were those who could name policy, as you saw. and those people were really passionate about the fact that donald trump says that he s pro-life. they certainly like the fact that he s still talking about building a wall. they like the fact that he s going to he s saying that he s going to appoint like-minded justices to the supreme court. they like all of that. but still there are people who just two weeks out now from election day, want to hear more. i asked one woman about donald trump s plans for isis, saying that he was going to bomb them and going to bomb the oil fields, and she admitted, you re right, he doesn t have a plan for isis. but she s convinced that he s going to surround himself with smart people, smart generals, and he will, eventually, have a good plan for isis, if he is, indeed, in the white house. another woman i talked to about social security. and she said, donald trump keeps saying that he s going to stage social security and make it great again, but she still wants to know how, anderson. randi kaye, thanks very much. just ahead on this two-hour edition of 360, donald trump pounding the trail in the must-win state of florida, slamming president obama with a surge in obamacare premiums. can he turn the sticker shock into votes? 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of an at-risk high school. three victims so far. the suspect or suspects still at large. the school there is on lockdown. we ll hand it over to jake tapper with more of this coverage. jake? welcome to the lead. i m jake tapper. you re looking at live pictures from kptv in portland, oregon. we re beginning today with breaking news in our national lead. you re looking right now at live pictures, as i said, about a school shooting in north portland at rosemary anderson high school, where at least three victims have been shot, three people shot according to the fire department. it is unknown if the people shot are dead or alive. portland police say the suspects have fled. they would not say if they were still believed to be armed or if they clashed with police. nearby jefferson high school and portland community college in lockdown, we re told. media have been told to set up at north killingsworth street and kirby avenue. that s the staging area. we ll update more on that story as soon as we know more. but to recap, there has been a school shooting in north portland, oregon, at rosemary anderson high school. as of right now, we know of at least three individuals who were shot. and we are waiting for more information as we learn it. we ll bring to it you as soon as we get it. now let s turn to our money lead. a not-so-happy friday for wall street. stocks tanking today. the dow tumbling 110 points this morning before sliding further and ending the day down about 300 points. cnn money correspondent alison kosik is live at the new york stock exchange. alison, another day, another day of bad news. why do the markets keep falling? reporter: it s all about oil, jake. plunging oil prices taking a toll on investors today yet again. oil falling almost 4%, settling below 58 a barrel. the international energy agency saying global demand for oil is going to fall next year as supply is growing. what s rattling wall street is the question of what s really behind this drop in oil prices? the concern is because economies in europe and asia are slowing down. and you look at the plunge in oil over the past six months. it s happened really fast making investors very nervous. if you drive, you love the lower gas prices. in oklahoma city, you can fill up for $1.89 a gallon. that s just one city across the country that s enjoying these lower gas prices. it s like a tax cut putting an extra $100 a month into your pocket. and that extra money is going towards spending because retail sales numbers for november came in better than expected. but wall street sees the extra spending as a plus but today it s about worries that lower demand for oil is a symptom of slower growth for the rest of the world. jake? alison kosik in new york, thanks. our national lead right now is that monster storm slamming the west coast. the weather responsible for two deaths, both in portland, oregon, a young boy killed when a tree fell on the car in which he was traveling. another tree fell on the tent of a homeless man, killing him. the same system that washed this house into the ocean in washington state is still lashing the west coast. in california, some people ended up trapped inside their own homes. mud slides and houses crushed by big boulders. paul vercammen is live in that neighborhood in camarillo springs. it s a mess there and amazing that anyone survived. reporter: it s astonishing. these houses absolutely swallowed up by all these rocks, tons and tons of rock that is came down over the hill. you see utility workers trying to make sure everything is turned off in terms of the power and the gas. and down the street, we have ten houses around this part of camarillo springs that have been red-tagged. that means they re uninhabitable. they re swallowed up and surrounded by rocks. a harrowing story out of this house here. when the rocks came and surrounded the house, a couple was pinned inside along with their caregiver. and the fire department had to come in and pull them out. we talked to their son and he was so glad to hear that the caregiver and his 86-year-old parents survived this. when you think about what you see over there, these rocks and your parents at the age of 86 going through this, what does that say about them? that s pretty darn amazing. i heard about the rocks but until i looked at the sides of the houses and heard from some of the cameramen that went to the back and saw how expentensi the damage was, it catches you by surprise. reporter: why did this happen? because there was a major fire that roared through here about a year and a half ago. it stripped the vegetation from these hills. and then overnight, the weather service telling us in just three hours, they got an inch and a half to two inches of rain in an already saturated hillside. that s what the mud but mostly rock, as you can see, came roaring down here and engulfed these houses, jake. paul vercammen in camarillo springs, california, thank you so much. another amazing situation, the rescue of two people clinging to trees in the swollen los angeles river. at one point, the rushing water swept a rescuer downstream. luckily everyone survived. the threat of these intense waters bringing more mud slides is the biggest fear in california right now. areas once scorched by wildfires have nothing to hold back the debris. let s bring in mark gillalducci from berkeley, california. what is the main concern right now? how are you getting people out of harm s way from the potential mud slides? the most important factor right now is the ongoing consistent rain. at times, the rain is going to be very heavy. we ve identified those areas that could potentially be impacted by mud flows. we know where the burn scars are from this past summer. we have done mandatory evacuations in all of those areas where they potentially could result in mud flows. that s given us the ability to get folks out of harm s way and get the area closed off to potentially other people who may be impacted by that. up north, flooding was the big problem. you have crews racing to reopen roads and get power restored. we re heading into the weekend where more people could be leaving their homes. how long do you see this clean-up process lasting? well, given the fact that it is still raining and we ll be between two storms. another storm will be coming behind this one in the next day or so. the crews have been out. they were out before the storm hit and being prepared to respond. and they worked all through the storm to keep the drains open and keep the highways clear. but we anticipate it will take a few weeks to be able to get through the clean-up process throughout the state. you had as of now, knock on wood, no deaths reported in california. we ve heard of two in oregon. you say preplanning is responsible for a lot of that, right? well, absolutely. we had really the great opportunity of seeing the storm coming towards us, which gave us the ability to do a lot of outreach to the citizens of california and to our public safety agencies, to our emergency managers throughout the state of california. to get the word out about winterizing your home, what to do when it started to rain hard, how to drive through water. and all of those were great messages that we were able to put forth. and i think it really did play out well for us. we are blessed. at this point we have nod had any reports of fatalities. mark, thank you so much. turning to our world lead, anarchy in the skies today. heathrow airport in london had to divert flight after flight when its computers failed, saddling one of the world s busiest hubs. an hour ago, a spokesman told cnn they have ruled out a cyberattack. and they say it was a hiccup in their state-of-the-art computers. cnn aviation correspondent rene marsh joins us now. even if it wasn t a cyberattack, this does expose just how easily our way of managing airplanes in this computerized world can easily implode. you re absolutely right. it truly is a vulnerable that makes a lot of people uncomfortable. if you re flying through london, one thing is certain today, you can expect delays for hours to come. about 100 flights in and out of heathrow, a major international hub, canceled. and even more delays. and then there s the ripple effect. it s all because of this computer failure, a real-life demonstration of just how a downed computer system can cripple air travel for thousand and thousands of travelers. this is what traffic in the skies over london looks like on a normal day. this is what it looks like today after a major disruption from what officials call a computer failure at a british control center. we ll obviously work to make sure it never happens again. it s a complex system. failures do occur and we plan for those failures and have a plan in place for those failures. reporter: london heathrow airport, one of the busiest airports in the world, at a standstill today. no flights going in or out. we ve been waiting on the plane for an hour. reporter: the airspace closed after the system that helps coordinate flights in the crowded airspace went down. many planes, diverted. an hour and 20 minutes later, the problem at the air traffic control center was fixed. but the damage had been done. the ripple effect felt at airports across the uk. heathrow saying the flight disruptions could continue to saturday. delays also in paris. u.s. carriers also experiencing some delays. the question now, what caused the system failure? british officials have ruled out a hack and aviation security analysts agree. there s been a lot of attempts. but there have not been any through the firewall to take control of any kind of control in any way. so unless this is a first time, i don t think that s what happened here. reporter: there are back-up systems, but as we saw in chicago this september, when wires were cut and a fire ignited inside an faa facility disrupting thousands of flights for days, those redundancies, may not be enough to prevent disrupted travel on a major scale. the majority of problems we are seeing are with international carriers like british airways and some of the other british carriers. we know the u.s. carriers, some of them, experiencing just a handful of delays. what you really want to do is make sure you call your carrier if you re headed in that direction to make sure you won t be impacted. more evidence of the vulnerability in this new computer age of what can happen because of a glitch. exactly. one glitch and so many people, their flight plans disrupted. rene marsh, thank you so much. let s go back to the breaking news out of portland, oregon. we are looking right now at some live pictures from kptv of rosemary anderson high school where there s been a school shooting. let s go over what we know so far. at least three victims, all students, have been shot. police say the students were transported from the scene, they were conscious and breathing when they left the scene and they ve been taken to nearby emmanuel medical center, we re told. portland, oregon, police say the suspect or suspects have fled. police would not say if the individuals, the suspects, were still armed or if they clashed with police. we re also told nearby jefferson high school and portland community college in portland, oregon, are on lockdown. rosemary anderson high school is an alternative high school that opened in 1983. it has just under 200 students. let s go now to rich tyler on the phone with the portland fire department. rich, are you there? are you still looking for the shooter? yes. portland police is looking for the shooter. we as a fire department provided the emergency medical services to the students that were transported. what can you tell us about the students? three students, all wounded. what kinds of wounds were they, how serious? i do not know the extent of the wounds. all i know is they were all three shot and transported to emmanuel hospital. we re just learning about this. can you tell us what time it happened? approximately 30 minutes ago. just about 30 minutes ago you got the call and you went there. and do you have any idea how serious the wounds are? we heard one report that somebody was shot in the back. are they considered to be life-threatening injuries? do you have any idea? at this point, we re treating all of them as life-threatening injuries. the physicians there at emmanuel hospital will do an excellent job of taking care of them to the best of their ability. portland police is on scene, not only investigating the shooting here but also out looking for the shooter. it s about 1:15 portland time. you re saying it happened about half an hour ago, so about 12:45. were the students outside the school or inside the school? do you know? they were inside the school. and what other details can you tell us? is the shooter or shooters thought to be students? is it more than one shooter? we don t know that at this time. and what kind of capability do you have there at the scene right now? how many fire trucks are there? how many police cars are there? i don t know exactly how many. we pulled a full multi-patient incident for the fire department. and the police bureau brought everybody in, including their task force to help assist. what message do you have for the parents who are learning about this right now? i would imagine if it only happened about half an hour ago, is there a staging area for parents to meet up with their students? are the students inside the school in lockdown? yes. the students inside the school are in lockdown. we re asking all parents who are coming to pick up their students to come to north kirby and north killingsworth court. there we have police officers who will help reunify the parents with the students. we re told by the portland police this is not an active shooter situation. police are beginning to investigate the incident. translate that for us. that means that the shooter is not inside the school itself or thought to be near the school but he or she is still at large, i believe, correct? correct. but no longer actively shooting anyone. they have left the scene and are no longer here at the school. we re told that nearby jefferson high school and portland community college are also in lockdown. are there any other businesses or schools that are in lockdown? is that just because they re close by? correct. yeah, that s standard protocol to lock those down. keep those students safe as we as the portland police looks for the shooter or shooters. what can you tell us about rosemary anderson high school? we re told it s an alternative high school, has fewer than 200 students. that s about the extent of what i know. it s a high school that started here a few years back and has a small student population. this is an area of north portland, is that right? that s correct. what can you tell us about north portland? is this an area that has a lot of shootings in the neighborhood? is it an area that is high crime or is this obviously school shootings are horrific whenever they happen. but is this unusual for there to be a shooting in this neighborhood? it s unusual to have a shooting at a school anywhere. unfortunately it s becoming more and more usual these days, it seems. lieutenant tyler, i do appreciate your time. hopefully we can come back to you and get more information about this school shooting. we re all thinking about the three students who were wounded in this attack. thank you so much, lieutenant rich tyler. no problem. in our world lead, he is one of the few people connected to the cia torture scandal who is in prison right now. the operative who claims to have blown the whistle on the whole program. what does he think about the shocking details in the new senate torture report? we ll go to that prison interview next. 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ask your doctor about farxiga and visit our website to learn how you may be able to get every month free. welcome back to the lead. we continue to follow breaking news in our national lead. you re looking at pictures of rosemary anderson high school in north portland, oregon. police say there s been a school shooting. let s go over what we know so far. there are at least three victims, all students. they have been shot. police say they were shot we just heard from portland fire department which said that the students were shot inside the school. police say the three were transported from the scene, conscious and breathing and taken to nearby emmanuel medical center. portland police say it is not an active shooter situation, meaning the shooter is not on the scene or inside the school. but the suspect or suspects have fled, according to police. police will not say if the individuals or individual was still armed or if that person clashed with police. rosemary anderson high school has been it s a place where there are under 200 students. it s an alternative school. it has been declared safe. police have nearby jefferson high school and portland community college in lockdown because they are close by. that is standard operating procedure, we re told, from a member of portland, oregon s emergency management services. let s go to cnn justice reporter, evan perez, who has new details about this school shooting. evan, what can you tell us? as often happens in these situations, there s a lot of conflicting information early on in this case, as well. the police are indicating that they believe the shooting actually happened outside of the school. i know you just said, i think the fire department said they transported three people from the scene. and they believe that the shooting they were shot inside the school. we ll have to wait a little while for these details to be clarified by the police. we know that the suspect the person who was believed to carry out the shooting has fled the scene and the police are now preparing to provide a little more detail on who they re looking for. we know that they have now alerted the federal authorities who are now heading to the scene. i ve talked to people who say the atf is heading to the scene and i expect that the fbi is as well because as they that tends to happen in these cases. the feds come in to try to provide any assistance that the local police may need, including trying to figure out where the gun might have come from from the suspect, the suspect used in this shooting. right now, we know that there were three victims and we know that the suspect is no longer there. so we expect that the police are going to provide an update in a little while. there s not a lot more that we know from how this went down. it s one of those situations where it always triggers a lot of response from federal and local authorities. the feds come in typically to try to do gun trace, to try to see if they can help, perhaps get some of the background on who the shooter was, if there was any information in their computers or in any of their background that indicated why this might have happened. again, it s still very early. and we don t know exactly what precipitated, what caused this shooting, whether or not there was a disagreement or whether it was something that was premeditated. that s right. always a good reminder that information coming in so soon after an incident like this can often be conflicting. we re tole the incident happened roughly 12:45 portland time, 3:45 eastern time. all three students were wounded but were conscious and breathing. the fire department spokesman said they were treating the injuries as if they were life-threatening, not that they are. but they are treating them with urgency. evan perez, thank you for that. we re going to come back to you as you learn more information. i have on the phone now, parker bouldin, who lives in the neighbor. parker, you were on the scene just after the shooting, i m told. tell us what you saw. well, i heard a siren. i was in the apartment complex right on the corner. and i heard a siren. then i heard a couple more. they all seemed to be coming our direction. so i walked outside and there was a very small gathering of people just a few cops at the time that i got there. and they were starting to take the victims out on stretchers. and you were in your apartment building when you were watching this? no. i was on the street right outside of the school that it happened at. and can you tell us anything in terms of the urgency with which these students were being taken onto the ambulance and rushed off? i just ask because it might say something about the seriousness of the wounds. it was very quickly. they were out of the school, they were on stretchers. they actually came by where i was standing next to a couple of people who knew the victim. and he was responsive, talking back to them. he seemed sort of i don t know, he wasn t going in and out of consciousness but he was not very in clear mind, you know. he was definitely in a bad situation. and they were quickly put on and taken to emmanuel hospital right around the corner. that s what we were told. did you see all three shooting victims or one of them. i did. i saw all three of them. were they three males, do you know? two males they were from what i could i saw two males. i didn t see the other victim very clearly. i saw two males who had bandages, around the midsection. you describe one of the victims as having been talking, which is great news. what about the other two? were they speaking at all, could you tell? the other one that i saw clearly, his eyes were open. he was definitely alert. he wasn t talking to anybody. nobody was really shouting at him like the other victim. and he was alert but i just saw it for a short amount of time. is there anything you can tell us about anything anyone may have said about why this happened or anything about the shooter or shooters? i didn t hear anything about the shooter or the shooters. it is sort of the conversation on the scene that there s a lot of gang activity in that area, specifically in that school because it s an alternative school. this stuff doesn t happen all the time, but that there s definitely murmurs of gang violence. what do you mean by it s an alternative school? we ve heard that description of rosemary anderson high school. what do you mean by that? just from what i overheard, i didn t know much about the school. i don t want to say it because it might sound offensive. it was an alternative school for people who maybe have some troubles or difficulties with their upbringing. fair enough. we re told also that jefferson high school and portland community college which are nearby are also in lockdown, rosemary anderson high school no longer in lockdown, although it was at one point. how far away are jefferson high school and portland community college? jefferson high school is right behind kirby is the street that that school is on. and jefferson high school is right behind that. and then in the other direction, northeast is p.c.c. and it s just a block away. both of them are about a block away. parker boulden, appreciate your sharing with us what you saw just minutes after this shooting took place. thank you so much. appreciate it. on the phone right now, we have andrew theen, a reporter with the oregonian, which is the daily newspaper in the city of portland. thank you for joining us. what can you tell us? we know just some very basic preliminary information. anything you could tell us would be great. sure. i think you probably know as much as we do at this point, jake. when my colleague and i arrived on scene about 12:35 or so, 20 minutes after the shooting, i spoke with a neighbor, tamara king, who lives on the other side of north albina to the west of the school. she reported hearing five shots in rapid succession and saw kids running in the street, including some kids diving under a car near north killingsworth court and albina, which is right next to this storefront school. she was one of the folks who called 911 and that s as much as i can tell you from witnesses that i ve spoken to. i was just listening to the police spokesman as he gave updates to the media here. your information is that the shooting took place at about 12:15 portland time on the west coast a little before that, yeah. what can you tell us about rosemary anderson high school? the previous caller, guest, witness not a witness to the shooting but witness to after the shooting was saying that people on the street were talking about how there is gang activity in this area. is that accurate? well, that s something that tamara king, the neighbor i spoke to, mentioned as well, that she wasn t surprised that this happened in the neighborhood. she s lived here since 2007. i want to say last summer, there was a shooting on albina as well, north of here a little bit at a bus stop. and police are saying that initial reports are they believe the shooter was gang affiliated. they stressed they can t say that for the victims. so we re just kind of waiting until we know a little bit more about who these two young boys and one girl who were injured in the shooting. but that s really all i can say at this point. i think it s a misperception among people when they hear about gang shootings. they think the victims of gang shootings are fellow members and that s absolutely not the case. many times the victims of gang shootings are completely innocent people in the wrong place at the wrong time or individuals who were certainly doing nothing to merit a shooting. the police said that the three individuals were shot and then when they left the school, all were conscious and breathing. the fire department spokesman with whom we spoke said they were treating their injuries as if they were life-threatening but that didn t necessarily mean that s what they were. what s your understanding? the police spokesman, sergeant pete simpson, said they were all conscious and breathing. anytime you have a gunshot vick and you can say that, that s a good thing. i was listening to the witness say this area is close to portland community college and jefferson high school. it s also relatively close to legacy emmanuel hospital, which is a trauma hospital. so that s a good thing in terms of proximity. but beyond that, i can t really say because we don t really know. andrew theen, hold on one second. i want to bring in evan perez, our justice correspondent, who has some new information. evan, what can you tell us? we just got an update from the portland police. they clarify that the shooting occurred outside of the school, that the three victims, the three shooting victims, actually went to the school after they were shot. they say they ve not identified the victims but they say they were two males and one female and that they ran to the high school after the shooting. the shooter fled the scene. so now we have a manhunt looking for this shooter to try to figure out what happened here, jake. so the latest from the police is that the shooting occurred outside of the school nearby and that the two males and one female who were shot ran to the school after they were shot, jake. that would explain why the fire department thought that the shooting might have been inside the school. right, and why they were transported from there. right. andrew theen, what can you tell us about north portland, the area in which this school is and if you know anything more about rosemary anderson high school, we re told is an alternative school of fewer than 200 students. what can you tell us about that? well, i can t tell you too much about the school itself. i wasn t familiar with the school. i m familiar with the area. it s inner north portland. it s a gentrifying part of town, i guess you could say. as many larger urban areas of the u.s. like i said, portland community college is right here. they have one of their branches, jefferson high school, one of the portland public schools, is within spitting distance. it s an active area of town. there s coffeeshops, there are restaurants. people are out and about trying to see what s going on. it s close to interstate 5. andrew, i would think that it s not an active shooter situation because the shooter s not there. but there is somebody on the loose, at least one individual who shot three young people, three teenagers, two boys and a girl. how big is the police presence when it comes to the manhunt? did sergeant pete simpson of the portland police department shed any light on how intense this search is right now? he didn t. and i can t really speak to that. i m not aware of any other details as far as a manhunt. but i can tell you that people are do not look concerned for their safety in the immediate area where i am. people are going about their day. if the shooting, just to recap for individuals who may just be tuning in right now. shortly before 12:15 portland, oregon, time, there s 3:15 east coast time, there was a shooting at a school at rosemary anderson high school outside the school. three individuals, two boys and a girl, were shot. they were wounded. they left the scene, according to portland police, conscious and breathing, we re told anecdotally from some witnesses that at least one of them was still talking and the police told andrew theen with the portland oregonian that anytime after a shooting you have people talking, that is obviously a good sign. those individuals were rushed to the hospital, nearby emmanuel medical center, which has a trauma unit, which is very, very close. we are monitoring the situation. there is not an active shooting situation because the shooter is no longer inside or outside the school. but the individual or individuals are still wanted and on the loose. portland police are trying to find out who he or she or they are. we re going to take a very quick break. when we come back, we ll have more news about this shooting at rosemary anderson high school in portland, oregon. don t settle for 4g lte coverage that s smaller or less reliable when only one network is america s largest and most reliable 4g lte network: verizon. with xlte, our 4g lte bandwidth has doubled in over 400 cities. and now, save without settling. get 2 lines with 10gb of data for just $110. .or 4 lines for just $140. and get a $150 bill credit for each smartphone you switch. only on verizon. this is the first power plant in the country to combine solar and natural gas at the same location. during the day, we generate as much electricity as we can using solar. at night and when it s cloudy, we use more natural gas. this ensures we can produce clean electricity whenever our customers need it. welcome back to the lead. we re continuing to follow breaking news in our national lead. a shooter or shooters are on the loose after wounding three students outside rosemary anderson high school in north portland, oregon. let s go back and reset what we know so far. there are at least three victims, all of them students, teenagers. they have been shot. a witness tells us he saw two males and a female being loaded into ambulances. police say the victims were transported from the scene. they were conscious and breathing, at least one of them speaking, according to a witness with whom we spoke. they were taken to nearby emmanuel medical center which does have a trauma unit. the fire department told us they are treating these injuries as if they are life-threatening, although that doesn t necessarily mean that they are life-threatening. the hospital isn t indicating what condition the students are in. as i said, the fire department saying they are being treated as if the injuries are life-threatening. police telling us that rosemary anderson high school is no longer an active shooter situation, meaning the shooter isn t on the premises or nearby. but we are told the portland police department is engaging in a manhunt or menhunt for the shooter. that s under way. we re told this began shortly after 12:15 or so, portland, oregon, time. there s 3:15 east coast time, obviously. and that it began outside the school, although after they were shot, the students went inside the school. pamela brown is in new york with more information. pamela, what can you tell us? reporter: we re learning at this hour as we speak that atf agents are en route to the scene right now. what they re going to be doing is running ballistics, try to recover the weapon that was used in this shooting and then trace that weapon, find out where it came from. so atf agents are en route. we typically know in these situations, that fbi agents are usually deployed as well to help with the local authorities. as we still try to learn exactly who is behind this shooting and all of the details, what we can tell you is that the fbi did a recent active shooter study because there have been so many of these types of incidents, especially in the past few years. what we learned from that study, jake, is that all but six of the 160 shootings involved male shooters and only two of those, only two of the 160 involved more than one shooter. so oftentimes in these situations, we see a male acting alone, someone who is disillusioned in some way. once they figure out who is behind this like you point out earlier, it could be more than one person but more than likely it is just one person. they re going to look at indicators, locker room through their social media and try to figure out what s behind this. three victims taken to the hospital right now and this is a very serious situation. of course, caused a lot of panic among the parents there when initially it was reported there was a school shooting, a shooting on the premises. that was the initial understanding. we learn now that this happened just off the school campus. it happened about an hour and a half ago outside rosemary anderson high school, two boys and a girl, teenagers shot, wounded, taken from the scene we re going to go right now, pamela, stay with us. i want to go to evan perez, our justice correspondent, who has a little bit more information about the shooting. evan, what are you being told? this is partly adding a little bit more context to what pamela was saying as well. this feels a little different from a lot of these other shootings that we ve seen in schools, again, this one happened outside of it. for that reason, i m being told by authorities that it just seems perhaps a little bit different. typically in most of these shootings that we ve seen, by the time the police get there, the shooter has already shot himself or the situation is over. in this case, this person tried to get away or has gotten away. so in some ways, thfls seems like according to the authorities looking at this, it s more of a criminal situation. it s very early in the process, very early in this case to know exactly happened, especially since they re still looking for the suspect. but it does feel like it s a little bit different. as pamela pointed out, looking at all the history of all these shootings, you typically see a certain pattern. and this one just falls out of that pattern. we re told, by the way, if there are any parents of students at rosemary anderson high school, locatil police are saying the staging for parent reunification for the students, the school is no longer in lockdown. the parent reunification area is being held at killingsworth court and kirby, near the jefferson high school football field, jefferson high school, along with portland community college, we re told, were still in lockdown, which is standard operating procedure, police protocol, after a school shooting situation. pamela brown, in a situation like this, obviously the federal government trying to do whatever it can to help. but as evan noted, usually in these situations, the school shooter, at least in the ones that we ve covered in the last couple of years, the school shooter has been shot by police or has taken his own life. in this situation, we have a manhunt under way. i imagine that it s something that federal law enforcement could be helping with as well. absolutely. like we mentioned earlier, atf agents are on their way to help out. we presume the fbi is on its way to help out and provide the assistance. but i want to point out what i think is key here. they re saying this is not an active shooter situation and that the perimeter is secure. so i think that does provide us some clues that it appears that at least that area where the school is is secure. and if there s a gunman on the loose, then i would be surprised if they would say this is not an active shooter situation. so, again, we re still trying to learn more details, whether this shooter or shooters are even still alive. as we ve seen in so many other school shootings, just the one recently in washington state, we ve seen that the gunman dies from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. and that really is there s a pattern to these school shootings. unfortunately they happen far too often. and a lot of times it s a male acting alone. again, we re waiting to learn more details on this. but that s what studies have shown, as i pointed out earlier, the fbi study. all but six of 160 incidents over the past several years involved male shooters and only two involved more than one shooter. just to put it in perspective as we await more details on the specifics of this particular shooting, jake. in fact, we are waiting for the portland police to give an update on the information about the suspect in this school shooting in north portland, oregon. evan perez, you have new information? we know that the fbi has now arrived at the scene. they re still calling this a local investigation as they typically do. obviously they want to give the local police a chance to figure out what exactly happened here before they get involved, if there s anything that needs to be done from a federal standpoint. we know they say they re still looking for a shooter and they haven t provided any update as to who they re looking for or what that suspect description is. but the fbi is there to provide any assistance. atf is already there, as we mentioned already. typically, they re just there to lend assistance to the local authorities as they are trying to figure out exactly what happened here. again, this happened outside of the school. so it s a little different from some of the other shootings that we ve seen, which typically have been inside. you typically don t see a suspect try to make a getaway as the police have reported here. evan perez and pamela brown, stick around. when we come back, we ll have more information about this school shooting in portland, oregon. 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