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Counsel. trump also floated the idea of blanket pardons for many of his white house staffers saying he didn't want, quote, they to be able to come after his staffers for, quote, any little thing, again, the white house counsel rejecting that idea, but saying, look, no one here has done anything wrong. unclear if the white house counsel knew what mark meadows was up to in his office with all of those fireplace logs. >> thank you so much for all of that, paula reid. now let's continue this conversation with our cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor jennifer rodgers. jen, thank you so...

Requested by some members of congress, they say they believe that that is clear evidence of a guilty conscience. that looking back some of these people after january 6th looked at the events they were involved in and thought they would have criminal liability here and criminal exposure. so, you know, that's the subtext of these -- to these documents that were released yesterday. but, yes, it's quite opening conversations here that the president is floating to his -- to his top lawyer in the white house. >> yeah, i mean, barbara mcquaid, a pardon is not a pack of white house m & ms or higher up...

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That will be turned over as well. >> so, one of the questions i think that so many people at home are trying to figure out is, in this last week, we have heard of six members of congress, that sought pardons. i think the congressman leading that conversation basically said, you do not seek a pardon unless you may feel that you are doing something against the law. what is going to happen to them? >> yes. that is a really good question. and you know, obviously, i am not a lawyer. but the fact that these members of congress were preemptively asking for blanket pardons raises a lot of questions ab...

Because if any of them had been pardoned, they could turn around the next day and the asked to testify against trump, and if they were, they can't plead the fifth, which jeffrey clark did 105 times. so, did former president trump not pardon them because it would hurt him? that's the question i have. >> and given that he pardoned roger stone and steve bannon and others, the self-interest seems to be a big issue here -- >> michael flynn, putin, making things better for paul manafort. but this would touch him, this would hurt him. >> all this talk about blanket pardons, this isn't bed, bath and b...