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Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 01:10:00

Because if any of them had been pardoned, they could turn around the next day and the asked to testify against trump, and if they were, they can t plead the fifth, which jeffrey clark did 105 times. so, did former president trump not pardon them because it would hurt him? that s the question i have. and given that he pardoned roger stone and steve bannon and others, the self-interest seems to be a big issue here michael flynn, putin, making things better for paul manafort. but this would touch him, this would hurt him. all this talk about blanket pardons, this isn t bed, bath and beyond. you can t just say you get a pardon for everyone of our all-time, and wrap yourself in it. the nixon example is interesting, that the former lawyer for the white house mention. because you have to write it down. you point, if you start writing down what s your pardoning, obstructing of a proceeding, a plan inside the government to do selective prosecution, as we were discussing earlier, to abus ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 05:38:00

Overthrow of the election is just alarming. the pardon power is under the department of justice, which i found it so fitting to be part of today s hearing. theoretically, you are supposed to go through a pardon attorney. there is a whole opportunity to write out a brief, to write out evidence, and so on. they skipped over all of that and they went right to their friends in the white house. congressman raskin, it s nicole wallace, thank you for taking some time to talk to us. someone we all talk to for advice on legal matters, barbara mcquade, just positive did that there may be perhaps more questions at this hour than questions around whether there is any correlation between the committee s decision to move last wednesday s doj day today, and the early morning raid of jeffrey clark s search of jeffrey clark s home. were there any connections between doj and anyone on the committee about the schedule? i don t know anything about that. i am on the committee that is only investiga ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 01:38:00

Indication of guilt or at least fear of prosecution. and the fact that there were so many republican members who weren t involved in extra parliamentary action in order to secure donald trump s overthrow of the election is just alarming. the pardon power is under the apartment of justice, which is why i found it so fitting to be part of today s hearing. theoretically, you are supposed to go through a pardon attorney. there is a whole opportunity to write out a brief, to write out evidence, and so on. they skipped over all of that and they went right to their friends in the white house. congressman raskin, it s nicole wallace, thank you for taking some time to talk to us. someone we all talk to for advice on legal matters, barbara mcquade, just positive that there may be perhaps more questions at this hour than questions around whether there is any correlation between the committee s decision to move last wednesday s doj day today, and the early morning raid of ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 05:10:00

Not pardon them because it would hurt him? that s the question i have. given that he pardoned roger stone and steve bannon and others, the self-interest really seems to be a big issue here michael flynn made things better for paul manafort. but this would touch him, this would hurt him. all this talk about blanket pardons, this isn t bed, bath and beyond. you can t just say you get a pardon for everyone of our all-time, and wrap yourself in it. the nixon example is interesting, that the former lawyer for the white house mention. because you have to write it down. to your point, if you start writing down what s your pardoning, obstructing of a proceeding, a plan inside the government to do selective prosecution, as we were discussing earlier, to abuse investigative findings those are all things coming out of the white house oval office of donald trump. so, yes, writing it out might actually incriminate him. it might just announce it, and then secondarily, yes, it might also ma ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 08:10:00

And if any were pardoned they could be turned around the next day and testify against president trump and plead the fifth. did he not pardon them because they would hurt him? the self interest really seems to be a big issue here. this would hurt him. and all of the talk about pardons, this isn t bed, bath and beyond and you can t say a pardon for all time and wrap yourself in it and the nixon example is interesting, you have to write it down, so your point, if you start writing down what your pardon is, obstruction of a proceeding, a plan inside the government to do selective prosecution, as we were discussing earlier, to abuse investigative findings, those are all things coming out of the white house of the oval office of donald trump and writing it ....

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