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Cohen of new york, or try to change the nature of the relationship. when we've seen previous presidents do that in the '60s, '70s, '80s, was the coverage perhaps more robust and more direct than it is now? do you think we take more steps to be kind and watch our wording because of whatever fear or political correctness? >> well, i think sometimes that's true. you know, a tiny parallel would be in 1964 lyndon johnson's old very close senate aide bobby baker of whom he said, if i had a son, this would be the boy, got into real trouble, finally went to prison. and johnson said, i hardly know the ...

Do you think we take more steps to be kind and watch our wording because of whatever fear or political correctness? >> well, i think sometimes that's true. you know, a tiny parallel would be in 1964 lyndon johnson's old very close senate aide bobby baker of whom he said, if i had a son, this would be the boy, got into real trouble, finally went to prison. and johnson said, i hardly know the man. >> so at least he was being rather up front for back then. and finally on macron of france -- and i'm sorry to hop around -- >> no, it's great. >> have you ever seen a case where a president of a forei...

But that ain't going to get to the center of the issue. >> melissa: it can work to a president's advantage. somebody to be the bad guy to take the heat and be the object of hate. in a lot of ways it's pretty smart. democrats now are very focused on bannon and what an awful person they think he is. they love to talk about that. so it can be good in that sense, right? >> i'm smiling because when there will be some particularly nasty piece bush would laugh and say better you than me. sometimes it's better for the people around the president to take the arrows. let's not kid ourselves. this is an ...

Most bitter rival in the administration, in all of washington and politics. but to call them rivals at the moment that would have been a gr gross distortion. he told sam rayburn, being vice president is look being a cut dog. that's who lbj was in the months, weeks, minutes, seconds before the shots rang out. lyndon johnson in predallas was in serious political trouble. a scandal, secretary of the senate's office was unfolding, one that involved, lbj's protege, bobby baker, graft, sex, influence peddling. and sparked new interest that johnson amassed a fortune of millions after 30 years of gove...

0 week not in you go wa. he spent the better part of this week in california where he attended fund-raisers. he visited dreamworks animation where he joked that his ears were the inspiration for shrek. in california, the president gave a big immigration address where he was heckled by a dreamer who pleaded for an end of deportation. the president said there was only so much he could do himself. he is going to need congress to act to do more. one thing he did not devote a lot of time of talking about is the role of his health care. california is crucial to the success of obama care. president o...