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korea is the impossible state because no one inside is empowered to overthrow and it no one on the outside cares enough to risk the cost of changing it. i want to ask you about both of those. in particular starting with no one is embauered to overthrow. why too you think that has been the case in north korea? i mean, especially from a politics perspective, this makes north korea an outliar compared to what we saw with the former soviet union. guest: i think that observation is quite accurate, i think. when we look at the soviet union, when we look at the regimes in the arab spring, all of which have had leaders in power longer than the former recently deceased north korean leader. they all collapsed and north korea continues to survive. so that alone is evidence that nobody within the system is empowered to overthrow it. and i think it s also just because, as you know well, the very strict controls that exist in this country, a society in which to use the term ensco ....