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Today for its january 6th hearing. joining us now congressional reporter for "the guardian" who has been all over this committee covering it inside and out, hugo lowell. good morning, it's good to see you. so cassidy hutchinson, punch bowl news first reported this last night. nbc news has now confirmed that. what more do we expect to hear from her? we know we saw her in some of the videos, the taped statements that she made naming names in terms of republicans asking for pardons around january 6th among other things. what more can we expect to hear today at 1:00? >> i think we have to still wa...

Legal case, how is it? >> i think in every instance of some lawyer providing him a decision he overroad, he knew what he was doing was wrong. i used the word conspiracy earlier. he needs to have done something that. that becomes the tweets and texts and comments. all the statements come in, and they're persuasive. >> and the committee tried to make the point to cement the point that the committee was trying to make that eastman knew and was saying, al gore couldn't have done this. but mike pence, you do it today. you do it today to keep donald trump in power. and then they brought in the testi...

Happened with mueller happen with them, a lot of bomb shells leaked out well in advance of the final product being done here. is the committee in your reporting concerned their best stuff is already well known? >> reporter: some of the best stuff is certainly well known through various reporting from "new york times" and us and others. this reporting has been done all about text messages from mark meadows, the president's movement that day, about various aspects of the investigation. i think that's one challenge that they have. they privately say they have more detail than we know but they hav...

Country. >> yeah, i mean, don, i think it's just what max is saying before the break, that the real sort of horrifying piece of all of this is not just "the new york times" story about the trump campaign knowing that the fraud claims were baseless. it's not just about john eastman writing a memo that has basically frivolous legal arguments to prop up a coup, it's that there are no consequences. i think there are two problems here. one is reforms that are desperately needed to our voting system, to the electoral count act, the statute that governors how congress counts the votes, they just aren...

Some assistance for this weekend's protests, scheduled protests. not going to detail the specific address. >> warning members and staff to avoid the capitol on saturday ahead of the right wing rally at the season of the crime. eight months after blood thirsty rioters stormed the seat of our democracy. that as more bomb shells come from this new book out, "peril," documenting the final few weeks inside the then president's inner circle. you have to listen to this. bob woodward and his "washington post" co-author reported in the book that joint chiefs chairman general mark milley believed the th...