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deals with that caucus after the small but effective group of republicans showed impact. yanked away mid tirade against congressman gaetz. now, that process was used to take new powers away from leadership and em power mccarthy foes. in a new piece reporting that whatever everyone think of gaetz his critics across the spectrum acknowledge he must be dealt with after the speaker clash, and mccarthy allies don't like it, saying it's not the outcome they preferred but gaetz's stature has been elevated. true on house rules and visibility as well. mccarthy setbacks in this early period, t...

a legal case, and it's important to remember the context of all the cliches we hear, donald trump fought this and lost this, the video you see on your television screen is something he spent a long time trying to avoid, but he lost and cooperated with this new york attorney general probe, and here's what he said at the start. >> anyone in my position not taking the fifth amendment would be a fool, an absolute fool. i respectfully decline to answer the questions under the rights and privileges afforded to every citizen under the united states constitution. this will be my answer to an...

and we also are learning of chilling new details of alleged plans by members of the oath keepers to prepare for violence in washington on january 6th. a new justice department filing says at least one member of the far right extremist group transported explosives to the dc area and another member had a death list that included the name of a georgia election official and their family member. for more on these stunning new allegations, let's bring back marshall cohen. marshall, what more can you tell us about this court filing? >> reporter: hey, fred. it was a significant filing from t...

Host, which you can totally imagine that's in his head, maybe there's something useful about learning how to did that give and take. my point is him coming on your show saying he did not seek a pardon doesn't seem like great evidence he did not seek a pardon. >> again, you're saying it nicely and carefully, alluding to the fact that it might not be true. we always discussed january 6th, where so many members of the republican party seemed to make common cause with aspects of the goals of the january 6th attack while sometimes distancing themselves from the violence. it's something we explore i...

Give me the papers, the papers. >> that's good. but here's the funny thing, david, which is that it sounds like bob mueller's investigation -- we don't know much about it. but from the indictments and the guilty pleas, has moved beyond the collusion. there's financial crimes he's looking at. there's lying to the fbi. there's obstruction of justice. no collusion is cold comfort at this point. >> the president is working this very hard, which is not unprecedented. go back to the clinton playbook on impeachment, working over ken starr, it is is similar. we shouldn't act like this is out of the bl...