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Looking at different spheres here. you're looking at a school district versus national government. but it does bring in the question of when we allow politicians to embrace religion and when we tell them that, listen, there's no place for it. and rick santorum, as gretchen was alluding to there, has been criticized for talking about his faith so much. >> well, i don't think he's being criticized for talking about his faith, i think he's being criticized for his clear policy of imposing his faith on others, and that's a complete violation of our constitutional principles under the first amendme...

Jenna: joining me now, gretchen ham ill. this caught our attention. it's not illegal to pray in school, you know, if i was in high school and i wanted to say the hail mary when i'm at my locker, i can say it if that is my choice. but it brought up a bigger question, too, about when we allow government officials or politicians to embrace prayer and when we tell them they can't. is there a double standard? >> well, there can be a double standard, but this is a personal manner. religious and religious beliefs are very personal to a person. it is what they do in their spare time, it's how they dra...

Pegging the increases in premiums. and all this has to be approved by congress, of course, and that's going to be where the fight is. a lot of people are saying, look, the military's being cut by forces, their equipment's being cut, and now they're asking the military to make a health care benefit cut at the same time the civilian government work force isn't facing any similar cuts at all. so there's a real question of fairness. jon: yeah. and interesting, the unionized military workers, those who are covered by union plans, they are not asked to pay a hike under this man. >> right. and, of co...

>> absolutely not. but if you're going to stand up and say you are a man of god, you're a man of christ and you're going to govern this way, you should govern that way. you should be against war -- jenna: hang on, chris. you just said that, you know, religious beliefs shouldn't be put upon americans. by putting upon americans, you would be doing that through policy, so aren't you kind of contradicting yourself here? >> i think the you're going to put it out there and say you are basing your policy judgments on the bible or any kind of faith, you should then govern that way. unfortunately in am...