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aed, because they save lives. the response to damar's injury was able to bring our nation together for a moment. let's remember that feeling of unity and use it to make sure we can save the next life, as well. >> some genuine heroes taking us off the air tonight. i'm wishing you a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late. we'll see you at the end of tomorrow tomorrow we >> start tonight with breaking news on your times, interview not don's top donors will plan in law andrea kushner. times reports that in an interview last...

new york times. special counsel jack smith has been defeat donald trump's son-in-law and former top white house aide jared kushner. the times reports that in an interview last month, the special counsel focused on whether trump had privately acknowledged that he had lost the 2020 election. in other words, when trump claimed the election was rigged, did he know he was lying? did trump have corrupt intent when he allegedly tried to subvert the election? also today, checks myths senior assistant special counsel, a lawyer named tom wyndham, was let ventral courthouse for the second time ...

president to be able to see this to a conclusion. i mean, you do one term and they reverse it when they come in -- [applause] youn't can't have it be reversed. you got to have humility. you can't be prideful, it can't be just about you. >> when he says eight years, every time i hear it i wince, because i say if it takes eight years to turn this around, then you don't want him as your president. paul: let's bring in "wall street journal" columnists and fox news contributor carl karl rove, he served as southeastern adviser the president george w. bush. karl, well co. the former preside...

thank you so much for letting us into your homes during these truly extraordinary times. we're grateful "the beat" with ari melber start right now. >> never more extraordinary than now. >> right j hi, nicolle. thank you so much. good to see you. welcome to "the beat." tonight we are here as a nation. everyone got up, everyone started their day. if you're on the east coast you're ending your day, and everyone's doing just about fine you can have the -- america and do what you're supposed to and not worry about who gets -- as long as it's faithfully and fairly executed. we're a day out...

"the beat with ari melber" starts now. >> you were speaking to donald trump's former lawyer, now grand jury witness last night i spoke to his current lawyer, who blames everything just about on the former lawyer. i'm curious what you think of it all, including your skills as an established political communicator what we're hearing coming out of this team? >> well, first of all, i'm so glad to get to talk to you i described you behind your back as masterful it was a brilliant interview i watched it when i got home i think that what he is doing is what you said. he was engaged in polit...