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President who believes they are above the law. >> above the law. that is how chairman schiff has closed this jam-packed set of impeachment hearings over basically these two weeks. what comes next? we can tell you. they're writing a public report to detail the key findings, which will include evidence drawn from today's testimony from donald trump's former expert fiona hill who detailed the bribery plot. >> ambassador sondland leaned in basically to say, well, we have an agreement that there will be a meeting when specific investigations are put underway. that's when i saw president zelensky st...

But we have gordon sondland saying, let me be clear under questioning. donald trump's goal had nothing wd with this. this is an alleged interference and a bribery plot to take out the bidens. take a look. >> what did ambassador sondland say to you? >> he said he doesn't really care about ukraine. >> did he use slightly more colorful language than that? >> he did. >> what did he say he cares about? >> he said he cares about big stuff. >> did he explain what he meant by big stuff? >> i asked him, what kind of big stuff? we have big stuff going on here like a war with russia. and he said, no, big...

Southern district of new york. former u.s. attorney and former senior fbi official, nbc news and msnbc legal analyst, chuck rosenberg. politics editor for the root and msnbc political contributor, jason johnson. we are also joined by former u.s. ambassador to russia and msnbc international affairs analyst michael mcfaul. paul butler, georgetown school of law professor. former federal prosecutor and an nbc news and msnbc legal analyst. let me start with you, ari melber. we've been staring at the trees. there's a instinct to sometimes look at the trees and skip over the forest. but what do we se...

He phoned it in. he saw a bribery plot. he knew that it was political and wrong. he phoned it in through private channels and he went about his work. this is not someone who reads in any way as grandizing, looking for the spotlight. he said under oath that he phoned it in because he thought it was wrong, and he went on with his work and his duty through official channels. he did not think that he would be testifying before the cameras or to the american public, and in our experience, i do think the public responds strongly to that because there's really very little to impugn. this is his story...

And towards this ukraine plot confession. mr. sondland, famously, we'll hear from him tomorrow, and today, mr. volker. we were discussing this before he began with a member of the intelligence committee who was in a tight-lipped way citing news accounts. now you have the news, which is that volker and sondland are moving closer to whatever you want to call it, a ukraine plot, a conditioning government action on getting reelection help, which is a no-no, or what we have reported as a potential impeachable offense, a bribery plot. they were joined briefly at the lectern by mick mulvaney in publi...