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routine training exercise. the helicopters involved were hh60 blackhawks. they can transport a dozen people at a time. >> fort campbell is the army's only aerial assault division. number of casualties is not known but there are several. we expect to learn more when they address the media under 60 minutes. a big area in southern kentucky goes up along with border with tennessee. the 101st airborne division sent out a tweet minutes ago. this is the latest we have. we can confirm two aircraft from the 101st were involved in an accident last night resulting in several casualties. the foc...

but my first guest says productions could be premature. karl rove is a "wall street journal" columnist and fox news jupiter and served as senior advisor to president george w. bush. welcome, good to see you. look at the polling, it seems undeniable, democrats have had a rally had had democrat versus republican polling generic pulling showing it even. what is wrong with that story? >> if democrats are even, it generally means they will lose, a lot more places around the country where congressional districts where there are 85% democrat and not as many 85% public and districts so the d...

Improved but the average person can't. when a democrat says the economy is making progress, they're saying to the voters i don't have a clue what your lives are like and i'm totally out of touch. that doesn't sell your can days very well. >> if they're in the position now of not acknowledging -- all right, unemployment has come down-retail sales picked up a little bit, and larry is right it's not going to register with midnight folks. >> this isn't a recovery. it's kind of like kissing your sister. >> hey, hey, hey, i went to the prom with my sister good ahead. >> it's a jalopy, it's swerving ...

Individually. the same argument can be made about a lot of low-wage workers. you need somebody in the retail stores. you need somebody actually providing the service. these are in-person service jobs. >> let's bring in steven moore. he's editorial writer for the wall street journal. do employers need to pay more here? these are the jobs that are being created. these are the jobs we're getting in this recovery. >> that's the big problem, isn't it, christine? i agree with robert rice. i want americans to have high wages. i'm in favor of a high-wage economy. the problem is the kind of workers -- ...

I have two kids in college so it is killing me financially. i think the solutions is not to keep tloeg more and more federal dollars at the universities. i think the universities is the biggest scam going in america. there's no reason a college education should cost 30, 40, $50,000 a year. i think there's good news. i think you're going to see more and more people moving towards online education, cutting these costs of colleges because, look, it circles back to what you were talking about. if people's salaries and wages are falling, how in the world can they send -- afford to send kids to scho...