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Lot of ways of doing business with the devil. Theres a lot of ways that were not aware were doing business with the devil or have an option whether or not to do business with the devil. Last year, there was a very good investigation about how the dentist in strip malls, particularly in low income communities, were essentially very many of them were own by private equity firms. I mean, people had to go to the dentist, you know, so theres a very real and obvious strangle hold over a lot of our basic needs and basic functions in the country. Its not impossible for me to sit here and say, yeah, we...

average of the chicago tribune fest continues as douglas foster who spoke after mandela looked at post-apartheid south africa. and marvin kalb present his book the road to war. live coverage of the 2013 printers role that fast includes a conversation between edward and john glassy. that is our live from the printer's row that fast in chicago. our first panel of the day with walter jacobson and keith koenenman. >> i had no idea, never thought about doing it and never tried to do on it. when i retired five years ago for the first time -- >> the michael jordan of local television. >> in...