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>> ali, you were in paris a few weeks ago. can you speak to what -- how tense things are there, what security is like? >> it was interesting to me, in that people were carrying on the way they normally do in paris. it is an outdoor place. cafe life was there in tact. but there were not only armed police with large guns, which was not typical in paris, but there would be places -- like from a side street, you passed through, they were gates and everybody had to go through under the eye of police. they'd check people's bags, just walking on the street from a side street because it is a soft targ...

And katla by all accounts been seen in benghazi, living the cafe life so to speak. had not necessarily been in hiding. giving interviews. feeling very bold he would not be caught. we know several months ago when the u.s. forces went after a different guy named al-liby in tripoli, they had planned to make a two-part operation. they are going to have to go after katala. it didn't work out because the libyan government got so concerned about the u.s. forces being there. they backed away from getting katala at that time. not too far behind the scenes, we know that u.s. special forces, the intellig...