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Clarity that i think people were hoping for from this hearing. and i'm struck, brian, that this is really the third time democrats have fallen into this trap of regarding mueller as sort of a messiah figure who was going to provide some sort of unifying, overarching indictment of, you know, numerous people across the trump campaign and the trump white house for their actions in the 2016 campaign. that didn't happen. then the report came out and it didn't really have the coup de grace against the president that would inexorably lead to impeachment. a lot of damaging information but no direct ac...

So i think there has to be some disappointment in the democratic ranks on the hill tonight. >> so josh, that's interesting. they might have put too many hopes and dreams in lieu of a work product into robert mueller. any talk that jerry nadler isn't perhaps up to the job? >> i don't think so. i mean, i don't think it's simply nadler, although i think if you're intdmating, brian, that the intelligence hearing was more revealing and it seemed that mueller was more on his game there, the questions were i think more pointed and there were more direct response. you had the chairman there, adam schi...

Opinion right now. >> joyce vance, i want to read you something from tom nichols of the naval war college. we'll put it on the screen. he's been a frequent guest on this show. let's call him a lapsed republican. "schiff's five minutes and mueller's answers would have been enough for republicans to impeach and convict any other president before sundown today." and indeed 12 minutes prior to him tweeting that here is a bit of the schiff-mueller exchange. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> during the course of this russian interference in the election the russians made outreach to the trum...

>> see what you're saying about you. >> if you want the world to understand the truth that you spent two years uncovering, and that's what you want, you want people to want justice to be done, you got to understand what the modern media environment is in which that truth, that truths can be conveyed and justice can be sought. his pre-modernness, i think, worked against him in some sense, in the larger sense. >> phil rucker, the president tonight tweeted out video clips, like a video clipping service, there was congressman mccarthy in the house saying, on cue, there was no collusion, president ...

Don't see the logic of the way mueller pursued this. and he was asked about it. and basically, mueller's answer was we didn't want to push the president or subpoena him because we were going to run out of time and he could litigate. so what? keep the investigation open. the reason hillary clinton ultimately gave testimony to jim comey in the e-mail case is she wanted that case closed. and i think an investigation hanging over donald trump's head would not have been good for him and i'm very -- i'm sorry that bob mueller essentially waved the white flag. you know, when ken starr interviewed bil...