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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

as here to respond as the the 11th hour gets underway on this tuesday night. >> craig sings, i'm simone sanders-townsend, in for stephanie ruhle. -- there is a pick development injection as cassava documents. case trump and aides walt nauta and carlos deliverer are facing multiple charges in that case including obstruction. today the special cuts revealed a key witness who is a trump employee has four hard and has earlier false testimony about efforts to delete security footage. and he's given prosecutors new information implicating trump and his codefendants. this comes from a new court filing which also says the witness no longer has a lawyer paid for by trump's save america pack. >> this is how you get cooperating witnesses shear with independent counsel, you have somebody who has flipped and --

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All In With Chris Hayes

coconspirators listed with their attempts to support democracy detailed through the remaining pages. but result legal actions taken by smith's office imply he wants this case, the january 6th case, to go first. let me explain. one week ago tonight, we were all expecting this indictment to come out of the washington, d.c., federal courthouse. we were on pins and needles. but instead, smith was focused on another case, 1000 miles south, miami. that day, he added a third defendant in the classified documents case. he also released a superseding indictment, adding new charges against the ex president and the new defendant, it mar-a-lago property manager. this came out of nowhere. completely unexpected. and it was kind of strange because, what's that going to do to the case? it's going to slow it down. when you add a new defendant and new charges, it serves to tap the brakes on the trial date in this case. the new defendant, carlos

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All In With Chris Hayes

against the ex president and the new defendant, it mar-a-lago property manager. this came out of nowhere. completely unexpected. and it was kind of strange because, what's that going to do to the case? it's going to slow it down. when you add a new defendant and new charges, it serves to tap the brakes on the trial date in this case. the new defendant, carlos deliverer had to be a range. trump and his co defendant, walt nauta, had to be arraigned because there are new charges. and if that was not enough to push back the documents trial, yesterday, smith asked for a hearing to discuss potential conflicts of interest surrounding walt nauta's defense lawyer, because he's representing these seven other clients that have been interviewed in the classified

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Alex Wagner Tonight

witnesses had provided evidence against carlos talavera, and others in this case. including what nauta. >> one quick question for you, are they still interviewing witnesses down in florida? is this the end of this case? is this it or could there actually be more? >> i do not think that this is it. we knew carlos deliverer was on their, essentially their target list. so that is not really that much of a surprise to see them finally making a decision on that. but they are not done with this investigation. there are still other issues involving honesty and possible obstruction that prosecutors are trying to understand. >> fascinating. thank you for your great reporting. thank you for your time tonight. i want to bring in the former federal and state prosecutor and tanya perry, former chief of the criminal division for the southern district of new york. ladies, not the indictments we thought we would be talking about this evening throughout the bingo card. let's first talk about the charges. one count, of national defense

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