Joe biden. the fear is they don't care about anything other than destroying trump and that manchin if he is in there, he will take votes away from biden, that is the only thing they're worried about. and in the end, carville is even going next, cornell wilde, he threatened -- carter west, i'm sorry come as a threat to the constitution. he is not a threat -- everybody is a threat to democracy if you don't go there ideological way. and they don't want him to run, and the truth is, they just want to bully a third-party candidate. let's assume that there is one. let democracy take its course. let ...