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the timing problem that evan identified. willis has a really impressive and distinguished history as a prosecutor. she has prosecute d all sorts o cases. she has done a good job, but i have to point out she has intermixed her own political fortunes with this case in a way that i think is going to backfire significantly. >> because of her past statements? >> a couple things. first of all, sthhe's been thro off a piece of this case because she subpoenaed a republican candidate for office and hosted a fundraiser for their opponent. what were you thinking? second of ul a, she's used her own subpoenas in this case, she subpoenaed lindsey graham and recirculated a political cartoon making fun of lindsey graham as part of a political fundraising effort. she's made inappropriate public statements give ing her opinion that this is a criminal case, which the grand jury has not
saying things. >> one of the things i have been fixated on is the speed with which the special counsel has been able to bring both the mar-a-lago case and this case. a lot of democrats were frustrated with the attorney general. seems to be moving very quickly. is the election part of that? is that why they have moved so fast or was this just right and ready at this moment? >> absolutely. they have been paying attention to the political calendar. they had to. one of the things that the justice department does, they have rules of how to adjudicate or bring cases and get out of the way of the political calendar, get out of the way of the election. ever had a president in this positionr ex-president in this position before. they are having to sort of adjust the rules to fit this set of facts, this script.
he and his allies are trying to come up with rationals. it's really important when we talk about his attorney, when you welcome at his interviews, the first words were to compare it to the january 6th committee. you do that because you're making a a political argument. when the rest of the trump attorneys are thinking about this case, what they are thinking about is getting it past november 2024. it's very explicit. now they are saying we want to keep this out until after the election. donald trump's strategy has been basically from the beginning the political strategy. i get elected president, this all goes away. frnkly, when we speak to legal experts, that's probably his best bet. he and his allies, they are doing whatever ta can to come up with some excuse, not to convince the judge or the jury, but they are going to convince his base. all this is unfounded and he's under attack. what the bidens are doing is worse. that's why we hear the arguments and why we hear kevin mccarthy
equating his actions with those of al gore and hillary clinton after their election losses. listen. >> you're entitled to raise a question. you're entitle d to question whether it was honest or not. that's the uniqueness of the first amendment. that's the uniqueness of america. you shouldn't be prosecuted for your thoughts. the difference here is when hillary clinton said it, nothing happened to her. when they said it in georgia's election, nothing happened either. >> also overnight, democratic lawmakers are peing that the federal judge that's going to oversee the case asking th trial to be televised despit rules prohibiting that, but judges can make decisionon this. this is what letter reads. given the historic nature of the charges, it's hard to imagine a more powerful circumstance for televised proceedings. our team was in the courtroom yesterday. van pevan perez joins us. the next hearing is august 28th.
happens every day in some neighborhoods. too many kids are dieing from this. we have to figure out how to come together. >> i do want to ask before i let you go on a different topic. you mentioned your work in the state. and in washington, they included working with george zimmerman at their points. what's their perspective and how he's done up to this point? >> you look at that race for all the candidates, it's donald trump. it's only donald trump. it's super clear that that's the case. that's what voters want. according to the polling. so whether you're tim scott or r ron desantis. i don't know there's much they can do. donald trump every time he gets indicted his poll numbers go up. so right now that race is frozen. and so that's my assessment of where things are at. there's a debate coming up in
august. that would have given the candidates a chance to contrast themselves with donald trump. but trump is not even coming. the idea that he's not going to be on stage for the first debate is the leading candidate is something i don't think we have seen before. so everything that's happening now across the aisle and the primaries is really a case of first impression. donald trump with a trim crown indictment is the leading candidate on the republican side for president. >> we're waiting to see about the debate stage with trump. i appreciate your time. i know this is a powerful and poignant day for you and the families. congressman, thank you. >> thank you. >> quite a day for them. that's for sure. we're minutes away from the labor releasing the july jobs report. we're going to tell you what it says and what it mean for the economy. a zoo in china struggling to convince the sun bears are bears. >> i never said it wasn't a
before the next election and try to prevent that from happening again in the next one. so what we anticipate is, as you heard there from the former president's attorn, we expect that he is going to raise a lot of issues. helrdy raised them in court yesterday. he said this is a very accocomplicated case. he believes that we have a lot of issues that have to be l litigated. he also pointed out that the special counsel had two and a half years to investigate this matter and that they are going to have to have a lot of discovery to go through before they can get ready to try it. he raised the possibility it could be a 9 to 12-month trial. the judge will make the final decision with the understanding that they the to make sure the former president has a fair trial. yesterday in court, he sat there and seemed not pleased about something that was given to him, some of the parmwork given to him. he and jack smith had clear
>> this is a huge case. >> they are now on the other side of the united states. >> that's right. quite a week it has been. it is friday, time to digest all of this. good morning, we're glad you're with us. >> we have new reporting on trump's state of mind and his political positioning after he pleaded not guilty for the third time in a courtroom in just four months. this time based on his efforts to cling to power after his 2020 election loss, the calendar is coat. the next hearing is key. his lawyers say everyone is setting the stage for a chaotic campaign season. trump's lawyer foreshadowing they are prepared to use the charges to revisit his election fight. s. >> we will relitigate every single issue in the 2020 election in the context of this litigation. >> house speaker kevin mccarthy also coming out with a new defense of trump.
vote d on that yet. she gave her opinion about donald trump's criminal state of mind. all of this is bad forum by a prosecutor. she absolutely does no better and it's going to be a problem for her. >> before you go, because my favorite line of this piece is she said i'm not a good politician, but i'm a very good prosecutor. would any of that mean legally a problem for her if she bring this is or, or is it just optics? >> i disagree with her. she's a better prosecutor than politician. >> that's what she said. >> the problem is she has intermixed politics. she should know better as a prosecutor. legally, here's what happens. she's been removed from a piece of the case because of a political conflict of interest that she created. when this goes into the courts, count on donald trump arguing that she is improperly mixed her own politics and needs to be proved from the case. that's only because it was prematurely made. once the cases is brought, they
garrett haake, garrett good evening to. what is that we have learned tonight? it seems that we have some information about what the committee will do. it is unconfirmed information and it seems to be a lot of undercurrent about the fact that the final decision hasn't been made. >> yeah, ali, if you go through it chronologically here, yesterday morning and thursday morning barry thompson the chairman of this committee told me that the issue of the issue was settled. it was done. but the time that we kind of close the congressional business day, today on, friday it became clear that that was not the case and that there is still a very much this active conversation going on among members of the committee about how many of these were for us to make about donald trump