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While the L.A. mayoral race has been cast as an ideological showdown between Karen Bass, a progressive who's willing to embrace alternatives to policing, and Rick Caruso, a more conservative law-and-order candidate, their views on public safety are not that different.

Attorneys. i hope the president who seems to be coming back to a leadership in 2022 has the ability to influence these local politicians. >> martha: chief bratton, thank you. great to have you here. let's bring in judge jeanine pirro, former district attorney here in westchester county and co-host of the five and a stunning look at hunter biden. it's available now. i want to start by reminding everybody of a sound bite that came from jen psaki over the weekend directed at you where she was mocking a lower third that talked about soft on crime policies. watch this. >> biden has supported $300 b...

The determine of prosecutors across the nation to free perpetrators have helped lead our cities -- look at the numbers across the country -- to the highest murder rates we've seen. carjackings, shopliftings, shootings in some cities hitting their highest levels. it doesn't go unnoticed by voter who say 81% of them believe that crime is their biggest concern surpassed only by inflation. so can the president, president biden, begin the process of turning this ship around? mending relationships with the men and women in blue. judge jeanine pirro standing by. first, bill bratton has been the chief...

Narrative, beginning the process of making it appear at least that the president is tough on crime in the ways that you were talking about? >> well, you know, i have tremendous respect for bill bratton. i hope it makes a difference. do i believe it will? no. i'll tell you why. joe biden was focused on guns. he's focused on federal prosecutors and gun trafficking. they're involved in trafficking of guns from other state. we have enough guns in new york state right now that we don't have to worry about them coming in. the problem is that these cases have to be prosecuted. when the chief law enfo...