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Chris Hayes discusses the days top news. Deliberating three days after this. I think its very sad what theyve done to paul manafort. Thank you very much. When all in starts right now. Good evening from new york, im chris hayes. The president appears to be terrified he has a quote rat in his midst. Inside the white house. That i should be clear, thats his word. Rat. Its not the kind of language we are used to hearing from the president of the United States who is, of course, entrusted by our constitution when suring the nations laws are faithfully executed and who is responsible for appointing ...

Chris Hayes discusses the days top news. So im going to be a little contrary here, chris, say i see where the president is coming from when he says this is a bit old news, my colleague, bob costa and i wrote in november when don mcgahn went before bob muellers interview team, sat down with verdicts two days straight so people have known for a long time that don mcgahn was cooperating with the investigation, that everyone who was in the white house was encouraged to voluntarily be engaged in these interviews. Now what we do know now is that after the week stories, by the times don mcgahns attor...

He wants to come off like the good guy. he probably did incriminate the president maybe without knowing he did. so he has been with trump, he was the count sell for the campaign. so it's not just white house chief count sell. he goes way, way back, chris. he knows from the beginning. he could be there 30 hours, they're trying to check raw data. that's what the february fib does. they check raw data, he could be providing information that could, in fact, incriminate trump but mcgan might not even know it. look. he's a good lawyer. he's not a genius or a wizard. it's not a realistic expectation ...

Campaign. so it's not just white house chief count sell. he goes way, way back, chris. he knows from the beginning. he could be there 30 hours, they're trying to check raw data. that's what the february fib does. they check raw data, he could be providing information that could, in fact, incriminate trump but mcgan might not even know it. look. he's a good lawyer. he's not a genius or a wizard. it's not a realistic expectation to sit there 30 hours and give a lot of raw data. at some point he will be giving them something they need for this case or something else. again he goes back on the com...

Is number of leaks left and right. we've learned more sometimes from the newspapers than our open hearings for sure. do you ever wonder why of all the things in this investigation the only thing that's never been leaked is the fact that the president was never under investigation, despite the fact that democrats and republicans in the leadership of congress have known that for weeks? >> i don't know. i fine mats that have leaked to the gang of eight are pretty tightly held in my experience. >> finally who are those senior leaders at the fbi that you shared these conversations with? >> as i sai...