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Scheme or a scam. as she just said, it should not have been at the supreme court. this is an idea that because the constitution refers to the time, place, and matter of elections being determined by legislatures, that means that the legislature basically exists by itself out in the world. it doesn't have to be exercising that authority within the constraints of its own state constitution, that you can't go to the state supreme court when the state legislature does something and say, look, this clearly violates our state constitution and they need to go back under this theory you could not even...

Happen is at the same time that all the states have been fighting over weakening in the voting rights act, it will allow them to gerrymander themselves into power, pass laws that will keep them in power without state courts as a check and balance and again federal courts will not really have a lot at play because they are weakening the federal protections. this is a power grab. we have to see it for that. it's not someone case by itself. fringe theory called the independent state legislator theory which should never have been at the supreme court. this is really the right-wing doing its work o...

Final say. the new york times editorial board summarized in the case this week, quote, republicans are trying to see if they can turn state legislatures, 30 of which controlled by republicans, into omnipotent, unaccountable election bosses -- conservative super majority on the supreme court. joining me now, executive director of the advancement project and msnbc columnist chris guyger, the editor and off author of -- great name. judith, talk about the stakes. what does this case mean for voting rights in this country? >> in the worst-case scenario, what this means is it's a power grab. imagine...

Carolina is a state changing demographically. that's not an accident. >> that's. right all of a sudden -- the southern states that are browning, we have more black and brown people moving to the south who are becoming voters, they are the ones who will feel the brunt of this. when the state legislature decides to make sure that they restrict the vote so that brown and black people cannot participate equally. >> judith brown diana's, chris, thank you both so much for talking through all. this next, and you washington in the new year. biden is not the first president to have an opposing party co...

Progressives on that state supreme court. think about this. in fact, what could also happen is that they could -- it would leave legislatures in power over election laws to undo things like amendment for in florida. it restored voting rights to people -- because the people wouldn't be able to decide about election laws, only the state legislature. and so, we have to be really worried about the fact that our state legislatures would be -- have unfettered, unbridled power. at the same time that they are striking down all of the voting protections at the federal level. >> i wanted to say, chris, ...