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Mulvaney also said pelosi seems to be the key holdup while chuck schumer might be more pliable. >> the vice-president and i met with leader schummer last saturday. my gut was that he was really interested in doing a deal and coming to some sort of compromise. the more we are hearing is that it is nancy pelosi preventing that from happening. >> chris hon is a radio host and ned ryan is the founder and ceo of american majority. they both join us. chris, once upon a time, your former boss, senator schumer, 2009, he said when we use phrases like undocumented workers, we convey a message to the ame...

Secure our borders. we have a moral responsibility to our citizens. >> now, you are using these naughty phrases like, national sovereignty and that kind of thing. the president has threatened to close down the border. in a sane world to use the term you used, ned, in a sane world, we would have an enforced border. that apparently is impossible in the united states. so, chris, if we've got a choice between totally open borders and a closed border, actually, isn't the president's suggestion for a closed border on the mexican border actually less insane than open borders? >> we don't have that ch...

Markets. he claimed a couple of months ago who have renegotiated nafta. why would anybody renegotiate anything with him if he turns around and closes the border. >> wait a minute, wait a minute. wear with me. hear me out, chris. australia doesn't have a land border and it trades with the rest of the world. iceland doesn't have a land border and it trades with the rest of the world. instead of having ports of entry that people can just walk through, why not close them and at least insist they have to get on a flight to lax or o'hare or whatever, where we at least know who they are before they g...

Secure our borders. we have a moral responsibility to our citizens. >> now, you are using these naughty phrases like, national sovereignty and that kind of thing. the president has threatened to close down the border. in a sane world to use the term you used, ned, in a sane world, we would have an enforced border. that apparently is impossible in the united states. so, chris, if we've got a choice between totally open borders and a closed border, actually, isn't the president's suggestion for a closed border on the mexican border actually less insane than open borders? >> we don't have that ch...