ainsley: one article claiming, quote: pence has faith in his faith. he is also convinced his ad heerns to christian principle also connect with the culturally conservative voters he needs to win the g.o.p. presidential race. brian: okay. here we go. our next guest served as chief of staff to vice president pence and nic ayers joins us now. nic, great to see you. good to see you. brian: how do you feel about the vice president s approach. do you think he could be successful? i think we are a long way from the primary being complete. the debates will have a huge impact on it. what i love about the vice president and really the trump-pence administration is what he did in those four years together. and one of the things that have really driven me and inspired me for the last 20 years in politics part-time take a bold stand on faith and that s something mike pence has done since he has gotten in politics. it s going to be a tough and competitive primary as you all
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