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That even if you give an artist permission to put up graffiti on your wall, it has to go. They dont permit graffiti on your walls. Whether thats in a mural or whether thats just a tag on your wall. So, even if it is done with permission, with consent, if somebody complains or if one of our by law officers come by, it has to go. And its one of those very clear definitions of graffiti versus art and thats how vancouver has been doing it. I hope that helps a little bit. Thank you. Yeah, i think here in San Francisco the difference between graffiti and art is the permission. I hope i appreciate ou...

Its city property. And as far as the type of paint we use, we dont use aerosol paint. We dont use solvents or thinners or anything like that. So, im not exposing the kids in my program to any dangerous chemicals or anything like that. But [speaker not understood]. But i am present and that is a big concern. And you have every right to be concerned about that, because you could cause a violent reaction. From the wrong person. Im not saying that every person who is involved in graffiti vandalism is violent or is going to take disrespect to it. They know its part of the game for the most part. Bu...

Cancer or whatever it might be. Great question. And we look like we have a couple of people that would like to take an answer on that one. When we do our graffiti wipe outs, we have it arranged so its the Nonprofit Organization that is applying to us for permission to do it. Theyre responsible for getting volunteer waivers from all of the participants. Our funding to provide them with the supplies and the support to do the wipe out is based on them following our guidelines which are all safety rules provided we dont allow them to use any chemical materials. Theyre only allowed to use paint. Th...

Take the mic, walk it over. Tagging is tagging. If youre set for work release or work service, community service, [speaker not understood]. Now, our when were doing a lot of volunteers, we had to go with it because we had a nonprofit to clean up. When they did our clean up, they were actually reformed gangsters themselves. They had opened a nonprofit and they were doing paint overs. They were pretty astute at assessing the juveniles and assessing the areas they were in. What weve done since then, we lost our nonprofit, now everybody who does graffiti, we generally send out, not the paint, we s...

When they tried to get them involved in the mural program. I think the one suggestion i might have for you is you start documenting the number of times that youre actually painting out there box and you start generating a bill along with a letter and send it to them. I think thats probably your best strategy so you can show the amount of cost that youre actually spending abating something thats theirs. And from that point then you have to have your policy makers or engage them. I mean, because thats pretty much [inaudible]. Its not unique. Trust me, its not unique. [speaker not understood]. Al...