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Out of him. what kind of cooperation would that be? you would think that would be pertaining to the collusion aspect of this investigation. another key point here that i think people might have missed a little last week is we learned that mueller had farmed out the investigations of some democratic and republican lobbyists on foreign lobbying, potential foreign lobbying case violations. he sent those to new york. he sent the cohen case to new york. this is the case that he's trying. he's trying the manafort case himself with his own team. why is that? well, it's partially got to do with the ...

Incessant behavior it's not unusual in that corner. however, it seems for some period of time he has been central to what image ins is the collusion aspect of the mueller investigation and i think that we probably will see significant developments in this case in the not too distant future. it appears to be building to that point. i don't know what the outcome is going to be, but i think that he represents a very significant connection here between the trump campaign and what the russians were up to through wikileaks, through guccifer in 2016 and interfering in the election. i think he is a ce...

Campaign is a real question. >> he did not vet it in office or prior to that. but i want to be very clear with everyone, just because there is not a collusion aspect to this investigation or particular trial, do not be deceived. mueller had every right to explore this ak pekt spect of t. if i come across anything nefarious, just because it is not a collusion aspect, it doesn't mean that mueller is going on a witch hunt. you could have done this so easily with a google hunt. >> and also it is important to remember who -- what manafort was doing in the ukraine. he was working for viktor

Said, quote, he certainly has a story to tell and he very much wants to tell it. when, if ever, are we going to hear that thing? >> at the end of the investigation, presumably. you know, his lawyer made that statement when they were out looking for immunity. in that instance, they were looking for immunity from congress. they eventually got basically immunity from bob mueller in exchange for pleading guilty to this one charges. he's not charged with anything else. he had been telling that story to bob mueller. whatever story he has to tell, he told it to bob mueller. he knows everything flynn ...

>> and when you stay report by the end of the summer, and is most of the team working with the eye on the midterm election calendar and the tradition of the 60-day window there to try to create a buffer to get the report out not close no the election, and is that factoring in into the timing here? >> there are a few different opinions on this, and some say that mooul ser going to be weary of the fact that the election s are coming up, and he is going to want to wrap up the investigation before, that and others say that he is not going to be subjected to the political pressure that comes with w...