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Know, ironic or you know, pretty significant that this is coming at the same time that there's going to be those premium court hearings about the next supreme court justice. >> natasha, does that scan with what your reporting indicates, as well? >> i have not heard that the collusion aspect of this investigation is going to wrap up by the fall. it's possible there's going to be a major indictment perhaps that related to collusion that does come out before the midterms and in that way, we have kind of a conclusion to the collusion part of the investigation. but that doesn't necessarily mean it'...

What your reporting indicates, as well? >> i have not heard that the collusion aspect of this investigation is going to wrap up by the fall. it's possible there's going to be a major indictment perhaps that related to collusion that does come out before the midterms and in that way, we have kind of a conclusion to the collusion part of the investigation. but that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to wrap up. there's so much we still don't know. we still don't know why three different people approached the trump campaign before thor? of 2016 offering them dirt on hillary clinton. offering e-m...

Shortly thereafter he dropped from sight. natasha, this speaks to the fact that we're sort of getting things six months later generally about what mueller has been up to. but the idea that he is not looking into collusion anymore seems belied by the information we do learn. >> right. it seems like every week we're learning a new piece of this investigation that does have to do with collusion. of course, the collusion aspect of this investigation, and that's not even a good word for it, the conspiracy aspect of this investigation is of course much more complex than the obstruction aspect of thi...

Mueller investigation. i thought one of the more interesting part had to do with the fact that you believe right now that -- not you but people inside the white house are concerned that jared kushner and also don jr. may be indicted. tell us about it. >> the interactions with the mueller team have been limited for this white house. some white house officials go in as witnesses, giuliani the former new york mayor acting with some of the mueller prosecutors. the advisers know about general flynn, they know about others like manafort who have been indicted and are about to go to trial but those w...

Looking at and you can read from the court filings and some indictments against paul manafort, michael flynn and what we know about him both from his indictment and from reporting as well, i don't think michael flynn is -- criminal activity has been fully exposed. i think there's more to it that will come out as this case proceeds. i think there may be more paul manafort collusion that comes out. remember that rod rosenstein extended the scope of the mandate to include collusion related to manafort in addition to all of the money laundering, bank fraud, and tax fraud crimes that he's already b...