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Heather: there you have it. >> we've been doing this for a year. i came on fox and for the year ago, they are still nothing there with collusion with the russians. this is obviously going to the trump financial situation, the trump payments. that is where this investigation is going, to go back to russian collusion is a farce. heather: the word here? >> we are finding out more and more crimes, bank fraud and other things that are probably worse than the collusion issue but i don't think we are done with the collusion issue. we have to see where the council goes. heather: we know cohen said he ...

That sticks a knife in the collusion theory. if you don't think he is going to win, why colluded with the russians? if you don't think you're going to win why pay off porn stars to benefit your election? >> that is an interesting point. my take aways were the president writing checks to cover up this affair from the oval office, those checks were sent from the white house -- >> if you believe that you can argue he has done that before when not running for president. >> the other interesting thing, he implicated ivanka, eric and don junior in conversations with russian nationals about a potenti...

Financial statements that were submitted to deutsche bank to get loans. that is classic bank fraud. again, if it's true. there's an extraordinary story in here, i haven't heard whether you've talked about it yet, involving a fraud involving his foundation where he uses i had straw donor to buy a portrait of him and then reimburses the donor. another, you know, if true, an outright fraud. and, of course, perhaps the most important part of it which is the roger stone conversation about wikileaks which implicates him in the entire collusion issue. now, i -- >> hold on, jeffrey. >> stand by one mo...

Thank you for joining us. >> good morning, maria. >> you were a former federal prosecutor and we learned information on common fronts. the senate said there was no collusion between the trump campaign and russia. number two was an drew mccabe. in an interview with 60 minutes said he launched an investigation into president trump. your reaction? >> it's a collusion issue. the senate confirmed what the house and every other investigative committee has found. as you mentioned the only person in washington that said they have evidence of collusion between trump and the russia campaign is adam shif...

I don't know if that is quite a denial, maybe a consider faction. the fact remains, he is no longer denying full stop that any collusion with the campaign took place. >> the other thing he told our dana bash this morning was that he was not intending to signal anything that he thought may be coming and he is trying to get ahead of it like we have seen in the stormy daniels situation. i think rudy giuliani is realizing what he did here. i think the real legal team that is behind the president is realizing what happened here. he is trying to clean it up here. but that's just not going to happen....