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Last year of nord stream 2. so again, they get credit for bringing allies along, but not bringing them along as far as they need to bring them is what i would say. >> let me get evelyn on that point and then we'll go deeper into the other stuff you wanted to raise. evelyn, anything on the s.w.i.f.t. and the economic piece here? >> i would agree with my good friend the ambassador. really, we could -- the sanctions package today is fantastic. i wish we had just been able to roll them all out simultaneously on whatever day it was they first rolled them out, tuesday, i think. i think we could go f...

Saying is, of course, beyond 100%, occupying the city is a nightmare for the greatest military in the world. it was a nightmare in iraq and afghanistan. so, it doesn't seem like this is going to improve in any way for either side. it just seems like we're talking about the crudest of weapons in the year 2022 and a refugee crisis that will become one that spans a continent. >> thank you for joining us with your important reporting from ukraine tonight and colonel vindman, as always, thank you for joining us again. we always appreciate it. thank you. and last night, president biden said, we are ...

And will lose you in a minute. what are you looking for? the next 12 hours. >> so i'm looking again for president zelenskyy to continue to rally his people, rally ukraine. he can be a strong leader. stepping up to be a strong leader. it is hard. he doesn't want to expose himself now. he is a marked man and also really important man in ukraine. even if he is not in kyiv, if he is in lviv or the mountains in the southwest, he can still rally his people. so that's an important component. ukraine will make this and get through this one way or the other. putin will lose. anne made the point. putin ...

Think that would have been way too high on the risk calculus for, as you said, any responsible president. the distinction that biden has made, and it is a correct one, is that there are nato members to which the united states has an iron clad guarantee of security. if you are attacked, we are attacked and we will go to war for you. countries that are not members of nato do not have that commitment, and i think blurring the line, putting troops into a country with which we don't have the article five commitment is a mistake. it is a line that should not be blurred. it has got to be bright and c...

He will do so on social media. that will reach a lot of people. but it gives you an idea that, while we're not seeing lightning fast movement from russian troops, we are seeing this slow slog that doesn't seem to be stopping. >> colonel vindman, how does the white house know -- what do they know in the situation room about this slowed down a russian convoy? and how much better is there information than what we have publicly about what is happening militarily in ukraine? >> i would imagine it's actually not significantly better. it's not like we have a source on the ground -- there information ...