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Weapons in ukraine. the few weapons we have given them are purely defensive. it sounds as though putin was trying to take home an imaginary deliverable for his own people, and he seemed just based upon reading the russian press and what they're leaking out, he seemed very, very frustrated. and that's not necessarily good. >> right. and as we mentioned, putin told biden today that any new sanctions against russia would be a, quote, colossal mistake. how much weight does a statement like that from putin carry? i mean, as you were just saying a few moments ago, if he invades ukraine, of course, w...

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Where the senator said he couldn't vote for the bill as it was, they were talking again. we are confident we can continue to work on delivering this essential relief to the american people. >> the white house did put out a scathing statement after that. we'll see where things go in the new year. thank you so much for joining us this morning. we hope you have a great new year. . >> happy new year. >> you too. thank you. up next, relation president putin telling president biden imposing sanctions on russia would be a, quote, colossal mistake. how the president responded is next. and a scaled...

During their 50-minute call that imposing sanctions that biden threatened on russia would be a, quote, colossal mistake. joining us to talk about this is commentator and former house intelligence chairman mike rogers. and jill doherty, former moscow chief and fellow with the woodrow wilson center. i want to talk about your takeaway from this call, a second call happening in a short period of the last call they had >> yeah. i think this is putin trying to take the pulse of where the united states is, where the biden administration is, where he thinks nato will be in this whole equation. and rig...