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almost always the case. >> there's also alex as tom just alluded to a village called st. mary's which is about a 45-minute drive from colville sur mer here and a fairly large cemetery at st. mary's, about 4,400 americans buried there, and if you go through the logs of those who were buried there, you find to your complete shock, that there are 20 sets of brothers buried side by side in that cemetery, and that was, the burial site is not far from where there are enormous tank battles that occurred, at st. low, patton's third army coming there so there were enormous american casualties there. the larger part you begin talking about and we're dating ourselves every 15 seconds, tom, you and i. >> that's all right. i don't think it's a secret from this audience. >> but growing up one of the biggest differences in the
what real war was like. they know what it was like and i think you hope in this sense with putin and obama that in an odd way it would make sure that rift didn't get too wide. >> it's a very intersection in history. >> alex just a few miles from here, from colville sur mer, where we are now, a few miles down the road there is a german cemetery at le cam and you go into that cemetery and the stones are very dark it's the exact opposite in terms of what you're looking at compared to what's behind us. you notice as chuck pointed out, there was very little left in between in the german army at that point and the casualties in that cemetery 18 19 44 or 45 very little left in between, but this is the place to be today. >> and i think what can't be