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I think that there is legitimate criticism of what i have been doing and what our administration has been doing in the as soon as that we haven't, you know, on a regular basis, i think, described all the work that we have been doing for more than a year now to defeat isil. >> without american leadership, nothing is going to happen. the president of the united states needs to step up and say beings okay, here's the plan. >> all right. we are back with our panel now. a.b., the president says that they haven't been doing a good job be describing all the work they have been doing against isis. is ...

Really the -- it was a 22-mile chase where the people went up to 120 miles an hour through a series of traffic lights. it ended in this terrible cataclysm where they were unarmed, but shot as many times as bonnie and clyde were shot. it was one bullet less than bonnie and clyde. if the police departments -- their own investigation found there was a failure of the department. in their investigation they say there has to be a system in place where officers who are under extreme stress are restrained from acting how they might unless there were a system there. what happened was you had a communic...

Death panels, all of this. their biggest claim is nobody wanted it. even if the rollout had gone smoothly and the web site had worked last year, nobody wanted it so it didn't matter. this is a policy failure, a communication failure, a media failure. so the response is to seal that bubble a little tighter and yell at each other that the numbers doesn't matter and they're made up. but going forward they have to deal with the reality eventually. >> well, i don't know about that one. joe, it was interesting, too, because this week, even on fox news the question about an alternative started to cre...

Yet. what does that tell you? >> well, it tells me a couple of things. first of all, as jim had mentioned, the turnaround, if it's a controlled turn would indicate that someone of human hand did that what is perplexing about that, however is malaysia airlines' operating procedure is if there is trouble on the aircraft, before they execute the turn to come back, they need to contact malaysian airlines and let them know that that's what their intent. that didn't happen. so it does indicate there was some kind of foul play or a communication failure of some kind. but as far as the debris pattern ...

Aware of any private counsel asking for security clearances, which is curious because apparently mr. issa, congressman issa wrote a letter to the department of state, the legal department on the 16th day of the month of april and then he wrote another letter on 4/26. the key is -- and if anybody at foggy bottom is watching -- there are people who want to tell us what happened in benghazi. give the attorneys the clearance so they can see that stuff and we can find out what happened. >>gretchen: let's talk about the latest update in the boston bombing situation. a new intelligence announcing tha...