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Right now. So we have to be very clear about this. We do not need to wait for pg es green tariff rates to come out before we set our not to exceed rates because they are not going to be below their brown power rates and we know what the brown power rates are and we know that we just like marin and Sonoma County are going to be charging brown power rates. Pg e is not going to be able to beat that unless they go to a really anticompetitive posture which will be very challenged by pg e and not be able to get away with it. This idea that we have to wait until pg e sets its rate, they are trying to...

I feel like its a weak ask. It sounds like we can launch this year. Lets do the light green and dark green. It sounds like you should just aim to launch this year and catch up with the rest of the bay area. Its kind of embarrassing at this point. Thank you. Are there any other members who would like to provide comment. Is there any additional Public Comment . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. We are done with this item unless there is a requested action . Jason fried, the one thing that lafco may want to do is accept the report so i can communicate it to them so there might be a month egg...

Cheapest electricity in california and in much of the country is natural gas electricity. Okay. Renewables are getting a lot cheaper but they are not cheaper than natural gas right now. So we have to be very clear about this. We do not need to wait for pg es green tariff rates to come out before we set our not to exceed rates because they are not going to be below their brown power rates and we know what the brown power rates are and we know that we just like marin and Sonoma County are going to be charging brown power rates. Pg e is not going to be able to beat that unless they go to a really...

Californias for energy choice. One of the coordinate ors that helped fight on ab. The rates really need to be challenged. Right now the cheapest electricity in california and in much of the country is natural gas electricity. Okay. Renewables are getting a lot cheaper but they are not cheaper than natural gas right now. So we have to be very clear about this. We do not need to wait for pg es green tariff rates to come out before we set our not to exceed rates because they are not going to be below their brown power rates and we know what the brown power rates are and we know that we just like ...

January 30th, 2015, city of San Francisco january 30, 2015, local Agency Formation commission joint Public Utilities commission please stand by. City of San Francisco local Agency Formation commission joint meeting with Public Utilities Commission Good afternoon and welcome to the joint San Francisco Public Utilities commission and local Agency Formation Commission Meeting of the board of supervisors and commission. My name is john avalos chair of lafco and joined by Public Utilities commission ann caen. And lisa. We are broadcast by sf sf govtv staff. Madam clerk call the roll. Avalos, presen...