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To be put through the confirmation process so it is a challenge for this white house to be sure. andrea? >> indeed. and over the weekend, jim, senator schumer cited nypd data that ghost gun recoveries are up more than 50% in new york city alone and without the serial numbers they're impossible to trace. will the biden plan make a difference? should there be more? should there be background chebs checks in order to even purchase these? >> in this scenario, atf is the ghost busters and the president is going to give them some very good tools here. the people that put out these ghost gun kits are...

At its helm. >> first, steve dettelbach is an experienced prosecutor, he served as a u.s. attorney. i know steve, i like steve and i trust steve. i think he's a fine choice to run atf. here's a caveat, hallie. atf only has about 2500 special agents, men and women who carry a badge and a gun. that makes him about 1/15 the size of the new york city police department. and so the solution to gun crime is not going to come solely from the atf or even solely from federal law enforcement. it comes from hundreds and thousands of law enforcement officers around the united states. is the atf a big and i...

You are no stranger to the travails that judge jackson endured in that confirmation process. just close us out by telling us, how does it make you feel as someone who worked hard for that moment to happen on the south lawn? >> you know, it makes me feel like our work is not in vain, first of all, it makes me feel like the hopes and dreams of the -- my mentor, the honorable shirley chiz chisolm elected to congress, it makes me feel like what she went to is working, even though we have to shatter some of these barriers and systemic racism and sexism, so it makes me feel more encouraged and makes...

Ketanji brown jackson with the new justice conjuring up one of her predecessors. >> i want to say i'm so proud of you. i know you're going to do a great job. >> thank you. that means a lot. >> i know your confirmation process put you through the wringer but in the end, people did the right confirmation process put you through the ringer, but in the end, people do the right thing. >> 53-47. yeah. a lot of them walked out, and one guy kept asking me if babies are racist. you know it was. you should have seen that man. he actually sat there on tv and read a children's book at me. >> well, it was ...

The constitution really means for everyone. and finally i'll just say, you know, having the lens and the perspective and lived experiences now of a black woman on the supreme court, i think it is going to really change our country. this is just one step in that arc of the universe bending toward justice. but think of what the country has lost without this, all these years. >> right. right. and congresswoman lee, through all the adulation there on the south lawn of the white house, president biden did get into the travails that judge jackson had to go through as part of the confirmation process...