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cardinali will react in a moment. >> sandra: cyber attack on u.s. airport websites reportedly coming from inside russia. more than a dozen airport websites were hacked and temporarily taken down but there has been no impact yet on flight operations. so far, at least. hello, welcome, i'm sandra smith in new york. and gillian, welcome to you. >> gillian: great to be with you this afternoon. gillian turner in washington. in for john roberts today. this is "america reports." bring you more on this cyber attack as we get it into the newsroom. the white house is defending president biden's...

And frankly, the media narrative will be negative across the board. but won wonders what will happen if within a few weeks we pass both bills if will there be headlines about democrats have glorious victory and deserve re-election? >> fair point. either way, they will either say you spend like drunken sailors. fair point. john, the congressman makes a good point. a party that acts in bad faith isn't going to get credit if they get something done, they will just say you are spending to much money. >> of course. i will to say two things that sound contradictory. the congressman points out i can ...

Workers not receiving a paycheck, but in some instances, work either isn't getting done or vendors may not be getting paid, so there's a collateral, debt mental impact on the economy and on helping those americans who rely on the federal government. this is a very unfortunate situation. i hope it gets rectified. i'm very pessimistic it gets rectified any time soon. as we saw a while ago, the notion of getting rid of a concrete wall and having a different wall is viewed by a concession. the political party you're dealing with doesn't view it as a concession, means the house democrats are still ...

Border wall. this has far less to do with any security policy. >> listen, i guarantee -- i've talked to some of the members in the house. they're getting blasted. their phones are getting lit up. it's not just ann coulter and rush limbaugh. >> the conservative base wants the wall. >> the conservative base wants it. but, you know, to the congressman's other point, you've got to be careful about closing the government down. my concern is the economy. right? >> right. >> the government shutdown will last two or three weeks. no one will miss a paycheck. we have all seen this movie. >> they get pai...

>> john, it just seems to me, john brabender that when you win a vote against something, you only have a few little levers and you use every one. it looks like they used every one. governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, and the individual delegate races in that state, 100 of them. and in 17, as the congressman points out that are decisive where hillary had won, and they were republican. it looks like they switched parties. >> i would argue it's a little bit different. >> well, go ahead. >> because first of all, i think it was good night for the democrats. i'm not arguing that. but if...