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Endorsement and say it's more important to get republican in the seat is an interesting move. >> to add to amy's point and the complexity facing alabama voters and trying to make the decision before election day, you also have doug jones, the democrat, essentially running an ad with ivanka trump's statement that there is a special place in hell for someone who preys on children. i will come back to right after this. we are going to run a piece of that ad. >> on roy moore's disturbing actions, ivanka trump says there's a special place in hell for people who prey on children. jeff sessions i hav...

A conservative versus who's a moderate within the republican party. >> you know, michael, i don't know why they don't wear uniforms like the code pink people do or other political group. show up, we're here to screw things up. all we're here to do is heckle. they look like hecklers. i'm sorry. mccain is right. he knows how the government works if it wants to work. if it doesn't want to work, there's a lot of ways to screw it up. these guys are doing it by saying, oh, we can't meet because we might agree. even though it's on television, it's a secret meeting, therefore, we can't have it. i mean...

Conservative. there have been many conservatives in the senate. jesse helms was as conservative from north carolina, as conservative as most of these guys. but there's a belief among ted cruz, mike lee, rand paul to a certain extent, though i don't know if i'd put him in that group, that the senate as an institution has basically failed. it's the jim demint argument. jim demint is the prejenetor of this. the way things have been done in the senate are by nature, therefore, wrong. that's why you hear ted cruz say, look, i don't trust how this is going to work. i think mccain and others say what...

Then they have the next guest and she is on the other side and she has taken the same statistics and say don't they prove that everything works? more regulation, regulation on ammunition, regulation on assault weapons. and as long as we've got conservative versus liberals, democrats versus republicans, the nra versus the gun control lobby, you know, for most of us, it's impossible to figure out what's really going on. they say, you know, numbers don't lie, people do. and if there is any debate that proves that, i think it's the gun debate. >> rick: who should be heading up this discussion? we ...

Now the battle over your health care. the senate health care bill doesn't add up to victory just yet. mitch mcconnell wants a vote in next five days before congress leaves for the fourth of july holiday weekend but can he get there? he can only afford to lose two republican votes and right now, five say they oppose it and three more say they have concerns. neither gop senators are talking about it. let's talk it over with lauren fox. so again it's a gop family divide. conservative versus the moderates. what does each side want changed from the bill presented? >> certainly. conservatives are as...