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He defy a lot of president trump's former peers and maybe friends and admirers in the business economy and i think he gave the bleakest speech since his inauguration and before that the second bleakest speech was his convention address with his comments today. >> well, look, it does suggest that the reports of steve bannon's political demise a few weeks back were premature, you know, we see in donald trump's world, you know, advisers tend to have ups and downs and they become more influential and less influential. they come in closer in the orbit and further away. this clearly seems to be a bi...

Could do that. bill clinton, probably, but maybe not with the finesse that donald trump has been doing it. >> no. and hugh is right. this is not new to him. having a command of the stage, having a command of the podium, playing off the audience in a way where, you know, in many ways, if you look at some of those folks that you talked about, all those figures, when they were in front of a crowd like that, every person in the crowd thought that bill clinton or barack obama or ronald reagan was talking directly to them. in many ways, that's the power about what went on in that room, that every pe...

To me at least harks a only in jersey feel to it. right? i always say, christie sort of traded on nationally a positive image of new jersey. the image that new jersey is home to a lot of -- people who are rough around the edges but give you straight talk, and they're not going to b.s. you. chris christie would go to these republican events, in iowa, wherever it was, tell them, i'm going to talk to you jersey-style and they love it. it would be blunt -- seems the other image of new jersey is reinforceed by all this, casey, when talking to republicans this week, were you picking up on that? this...

Fall. it had just shrunk nine full percent of gdp. )=myent of gdp. month. are we doing better than that today? the answer to that is yes. >> david, i don't know you at all but i have to tell you, who would you rather have make your case to st. peter than this guy, bill clinton? this guy can sell. what did you think of the impact of his convention address. >> part of that was set up by the fact -- i thought it was an unfortunate statement by republicans, were you better off than you were four years ago? you couldn't have picked a more unfortunate contrast. ultimately by setting it up as a contr...