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The Sunday Show With Jonathan Capehart

he needs to act like a speaker and put a debt ceiling bill on the floor. and if he does, that there are 218 votes there, i believe, to raise it >> and by put a debt ceiling bill on the floor, you mean clean debt ceiling bill. not the one that he just released this week >> correct in other words, republican need to be as consistent, an act the same way they act when there is a republican in the white house. on the democratic side, i am one democratic member, for example, and i'm one of th vast majority who voted to raise the debt ceiling regardless of whether there is a republican in the white house, or a democrat in the white house. that is the responsible thin to do, because that has to d with past spending tha congress has already appropriated as philando young said, if w want to have a conversation, a real, genuine, conversatio about future spending. we are welcome to have that. we have to pass an appropriations bill by

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The Sunday Show With Jonathan Capehart

progress, it would take us backwards. >> i just want to be clear you are not saying that th administration is unwilling to have spending conversation with the speaker it is just that y'all don' want to do it in connectio with the debt ceiling. >> i've been in the middle of lot of spending fights in this town, i've worked for the hous parisian's committee for many, many, years. so a lot of this is not new. i have heard it before where people try to extrac things that are, frankly unrelated to the issue at hand avoiding default is a basi responsibility of congress republican democrati presidents have all said, we should not use political brick man ship when it comes to this issue. it is a basic responsibility the world is watching, and t risk economic calamity and t ask to exchange that for cuts, to meals on wheels, veterans medical care, education, to us

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The Sunday Show With Jonathan Capehart

catastrophic calamity. economic calamity for families in exchange for cuts that hurt middle class and working class families the president has said, we are happy to talk about spending if you want to talk abou fiscal responsibility, thi president has a record o fiscal responsibility. he's presided over 1.7 trillio dollars in debt reduction hi first two years, so if you wan to have a serious conversation about that, we are happy to do that and not while you are puttin the full faith and credit of the united states hostage. >> i skimmed the 220-page bill cut this, cut, that a work requirement for snap benefits, cutting green job initiative and other things to shift away from fossil fuels. a lot of things that are the presidents priorities. is there anything in the deb -- in speaker mccarthy's debt ceiling plan that the presiden would be willing to negotiat over >> so, jonathan, in this town,

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